Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
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Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
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Re: Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
#2Wish we could see something like this in gmail.
I spent some time at a sales position and working with email has always been hard
Re: Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
#3> In this data, Ariely saw an inefficiency to target. Even though every email, by default, triggers a notification, it’s unlikely that any given email deserves one. So, with the help of some software developers he’d worked with in the past, he tried to come up with a way to tweak the default settings that are baked into email. The result of that work is Filtr, an app that lets users make simple rules, based on the sender, about when an email will show up in their inbox. For example, users can set it up so that emails from family members show up immediately, but non-time-sensitive newsletters show up all at once, at the end of the day.
Again... Google is already trying to do this for me. No, thank you - I can easily set up there rules for myself.
Re: Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
#4This is cool, but feels a bit frustrating because the design of email means this was always easy to do. People just use poorly-designed interfaces/mail handlers. I wish it was titled "...tries to fix the way we interact with email."
I guess I wish the focus was on how email, as a basic underlying protocol, allows you to overlay whatever interface you want to match your productivity, and an example of how we can take advantage of this. Generally the UIs we use are designed by large companies to help themselves, only tangentially to help us...but if we stick to open and simple protocols, then we always have options available.
Re: Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
#5> In this data, Ariely saw an inefficiency to target. Even though every email, by default, triggers a notification, it’s unlikely that any given email deserves one. So, with the help of some software developers he’d worked with in the past, he tried to come up with a way to tweak the default settings that are baked into email. The result of that work is Filtr, an app that lets users make simple rules, based on the se…
Just wait for that time when your (free) email provider will temporarily insert the newsletter in your "alert me immediately" rule. Anything that can be offered for money will be offered for money.
I hope I'm being too cynical and pragmatic.
Re: Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
#6I think there is a different problem: people do not know
how to use email.
1) people do not know how to properly quote messages
2) people do not understand that mail are quick "mail",
not chats
3) people do not know that mail are not file sharing solution
Personally I have inbox zero via notmuch-emacs, and I use mails for nearly anything feeds included (RSS2Email) mails are automatically filtered on remote via IMAPFilter and I can refile locally if needed but I try to avoid doing so to have more "automatic" solution.
A proper taxonomy + a proper full-text and tag search are the solution, all messages locally under our control. Unfortunately for most there are ZERO modern MUA, only webmails are developed so most people are stuck with '90-era client and so leave their mailboxes in a messy state or leave their message on someone else server without any real personal backup.
I think this is wanted by many "big" that prefer proprietary platforms with various lock-in like webmails or even more "new things" with much more lock-in from Discourse to Slack, Disqus, Whatsapp etc. ALL of them are a limited proprietary solutions trying pushing people out of emails.
Re: Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
#7> In this data, Ariely saw an inefficiency to target. Even though every email, by default, triggers a notification, it’s unlikely that any given email deserves one. So, with the help of some software developers he’d worked with in the past, he tried to come up with a way to tweak the default settings that are baked into email. The result of that work is Filtr, an app that lets users make simple rules, based on the se…
Just wait for that time when your (free) email provider will temporarily insert the newsletter in your "alert me immediately" rule. Anything that can be offered for money will be offered for money. I hope I'm being too cynical and pragmatic.
I don't think you are.
Re: Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
#8> In this data, Ariely saw an inefficiency to target. Even though every email, by default, triggers a notification, it’s unlikely that any given email deserves one. So, with the help of some software developers he’d worked with in the past, he tried to come up with a way to tweak the default settings that are baked into email. The result of that work is Filtr, an app that lets users make simple rules, based on the se…
Just wait for that time when your (free) email provider will temporarily insert the newsletter in your "alert me immediately" rule. Anything that can be offered for money will be offered for money. I hope I'm being too cynical and pragmatic.
> I hope I'm being too cynical and pragmatic.
Take a look at the comments in the thread about Huawei cheating on benchmarks: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17931549. TL;DR: yes, they're doing it, yes everyone else is doing it too, has been doing it since forever, and it's not just phones, it's PC GPUs as well.
You're not being too cynical. The world is just fucked up.
Re: Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
#9(I'm the PM on Gmail for intelligence and filtering)
Based on Dan's research we built a new gmail feature: high priority notifications. It only sends you a push notification for really important messages, cuts out over 90% of Gmail notifications for most users. https://www.google.com/amp/s/mashable.com/2018/06/15/gmail-a...
Importance is defined by a model trained on reply rate and a few other engagement metrics.
Edit: High priority notifications is now available for both Android and iOS, contrary to what the link I included says
Re: Dan Ariely Tries to Fix Email (2017)
#10Wish we could see something like this in gmail. I spent some time at a sales position and working with email has always been hard
Could you be more specific? Which features would you like to see?