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Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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I'm on my third EV (Leaf, S, M3). Never going back. Since the Model 3 is so well built (after some startup hickups), I can recommend it on that alone. Tesla is very vertically integrated now (they make their own seats) and so the Model 3 is profitable for Tesla although the capital investment was quite high.

Also, it's fun to drive next to a Viper and throw shade.

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I'm on my third EV (Leaf, S, M3). Never going back. Since the Model 3 is so well built (after some startup hickups), I can recommend it on that alone. Tesla is very vertically integrated now (they make their own seats) and so the Model 3 is profitable for Tesla although the capital investment was quite high. Also, it's fun to drive next to a Viper and throw shade.

It's fun that EVs are going to be the "sleeper" in transforming the energy grid; California needs tons of energy storage in order to transition entirely to renewables, and those EVs everyone is buying are a perfect compliment. A million Teslas on the road in California would be over 10GW of controllable charging load (roughly 10 stationary storage facilities PG&E is currently building with Tesla), and a more optimal destination for excessive renewable energy instead of being forced to pay a neighboring state's grid to take that excessive clean energy. A million EVs a year sold in California is 10GW of additional energy storage per year.

My "ask" is that if you own an EV, and your employer isn't progressive about charging stations, politely prod them (there are usually incentives, find these!). My employer has an environmental progress initiative, and it only took a few emails for them to install a few Tesla and Clipper (non-manufacturer specific) chargers in our parking garage.

Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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The only thing holding back EVs are/were batteries/charging times. Aside from that they're easier to maintain and perform better — on paper they're loads more practical.

Range more than charging times.

With EVs (and if you have a charger) waking up with a 'full tank' is pretty amazing... something ICE auto can never experience.

Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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That day will only come if they produce a cheaper car, just like Android ecosystem with Samsung makes cheap phones. TESLA cant do it, because their per unit car profits are too high. We need a new car manufacturer that keeps its per car sale margins low and rely of volume.

Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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Seems just as likely that the correct interpretation is that exponential growth is difficult to appreciate when starting from a small base. The “inflection point” cited in the article could easily be a continuation of the exact growth rate present for the previous 10 years.

Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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Seems just as likely that the correct interpretation is that exponential growth is difficult to appreciate when starting from a small base. The “inflection point” cited in the article could easily be a continuation of the exact growth rate present for the previous 10 years.

The prices have to come down too. the Electric cars are 5-6 times more expensive than the normal cars. By cheap normal cars i meant Hyundai Accent which costs $14,995, Or Toyota Yaris $16000 or Chevrolet Sonic $20K or a ford fiesta $14K.
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