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China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness

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Re: China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness

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You should understand that communism is and very likely will always be the ONLY religion allowed in the People's Republic of China.

I guess it's a matter of picking your poison

In this case, you don't get to pick, the party picks it for you.

Re: China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness

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I guess it's a matter of picking your poison

In this case, you don't get to pick, the party picks it for you.

The party, your parents, the culture you grew up in ...

Does it make that big of a difference in the end?

In all cases, someone else picks how to best indoctrinate you.

Re: China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness

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I vaguely remember that Soviet Union had a tendency of sending some political opponents in psychiatric wards to be treated as mentally ill.

Does anyone know if there have been studies or reports that indicate whether this sort of technique works in the long run? In addition to it being inhumane, I can see it going two completely different ways: either getting rid of political opponents/Muslims/... or fostering revolution/martyrdom.

Re: China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case, you don't get to pick, the party picks it for you.

The party, your parents, the culture you grew up in ... Does it make that big of a difference in the end? In all cases, someone else picks how to best indoctrinate you.

Depending on where you live you can always choose to change the religion you were raised with. Don’t like being Christian? Become a Muslim. Not happy with Islam? Why not try Buddhism? Don’t want a religion? That’s fine, too.

Not everyone has the option to make those sorts of choices without being imprisoned or killed.

Re: China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case, you don't get to pick, the party picks it for you.

The party, your parents, the culture you grew up in ... Does it make that big of a difference in the end? In all cases, someone else picks how to best indoctrinate you.

If you can change your beliefs without being incarcerated for that, it's a BIG difference. My parents and culture where I've grown up are highly catholic, yet I'm not being persecuted for being atheist.

Re: China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The party, your parents, the culture you grew up in ... Does it make that big of a difference in the end? In all cases, someone else picks how to best indoctrinate you.

Depending on where you live you can always choose to change the religion you were raised with. Don’t like being Christian? Become a Muslim. Not happy with Islam? Why not try Buddhism? Don’t want a religion? That’s fine, too. Not everyone has the option to make those sorts of choices without being imprisoned or killed.

> "Don’t like being Christian?"

Besides the places where that's not really an option, you're assuming that's even an idea than can actually pop in anyone's head.

I content that for a sizable fraction people, it's not: they're handed an "operator's manual on how to live one's life well" early on, and the very notion that you can question the manual is darn near impossible to digest.

Re: China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The party, your parents, the culture you grew up in ... Does it make that big of a difference in the end? In all cases, someone else picks how to best indoctrinate you.

If you can change your beliefs without being incarcerated for that, it's a BIG difference. My parents and culture where I've grown up are highly catholic, yet I'm not being persecuted for being atheist.

However many cultures do/did do exactly that. Is it still better than the state prescribing it? Probably.
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