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‘We’re taking a look’ at whether Google searches should be regulated

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Re: ‘We’re taking a look’ at whether Google searches should be regulated

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It is worth noting that often conservative and liberal Americans believe they have a point of disagreement as to whether regulations on corporations are a good or bad thing, in general. But really they do not disagree on this point. Only the minor details of what those regulations should be exactly.

Re: ‘We’re taking a look’ at whether Google searches should be regulated

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I appreciate the relevance and importance of posting this to HN, but I also think there’s not much anyone can add to the innate absurdity of the idea and the president’s claims. Additionally, aren’t searches already somewhat regulated e.g. DMCA takedown notices?

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It is worth noting that often conservative and liberal Americans believe they have a point of disagreement as to whether regulations on corporations are a good or bad thing, in general. But really they do not disagree on this point. Only the minor details of what those regulations should be exactly.

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Re: ‘We’re taking a look’ at whether Google searches should be regulated

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It is worth noting that often conservative and liberal Americans believe they have a point of disagreement as to whether regulations on corporations are a good or bad thing, in general. But really they do not disagree on this point. Only the minor details of what those regulations should be exactly.

I don't agree with this statement. Yes, both conservatives and liberals believe there is an amount of regulation that is acceptable. Conservatives typically aren't anarchists. Liberals typically aren't full-socialists.

The disagreement is the amount of regulation, and where to draw the line.

Though this is the idealized version of reality. In actuality, there are of course a host of political reasons conservatives may want more regulation in some places, and vice versa.

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post #3

I appreciate the relevance and importance of posting this to HN, but I also think there’s not much anyone can add to the innate absurdity of the idea and the president’s claims. Additionally, aren’t searches already somewhat regulated e.g. DMCA takedown notices?

So it's absurd to suspect Google of doing something Facebook has already admitted to?

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To me, this is a strong sign of Google manipulating search results.

https://www.google.com/search?q=american+inventors

https://www.google.com/search?q=american+mathematicians

https://www.google.com/search?q=american+scientists

Image results:

https://www.google.com/search?q=european+art+history&tbm=isc...

https://www.google.com/search?q=white+couple&tbm=isch

https://www.google.com/search?q=white+inventor&tbm=isch

Re: ‘We’re taking a look’ at whether Google searches should be regulated

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The internet exists, is way to big to manually curate, and google is just providing a window into it with algorithmic searches.

There is always talk about how google promotes this or that by having this search return X and how they should adjust it. They always "adjust the algorithm" or ban sites from their search results entirely.

Google's search is better (I've tired and use others..) and thus it wields enormous power. This puts them at odds with governments that always want to control information. I'm sure if they could the whitehouse could make its own "search engine" but people wouldn't trust it.

edit: removed my "good luck with that". The US currently has a poor track record of controlling large corporations because of lobbies etc.

Re: ‘We’re taking a look’ at whether Google searches should be regulated

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post #3

I appreciate the relevance and importance of posting this to HN, but I also think there’s not much anyone can add to the innate absurdity of the idea and the president’s claims. Additionally, aren’t searches already somewhat regulated e.g. DMCA takedown notices?

The claims are justification for the regulations they want to push through. Some countries have laws about what search results can and can't be returned. It's quite doable, and if you don't want it to happen, you probably shouldn't get complacent. Go talk to your representatives and consider getting active in an election campaign.

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It is worth noting that often conservative and liberal Americans believe they have a point of disagreement as to whether regulations on corporations are a good or bad thing, in general. But really they do not disagree on this point. Only the minor details of what those regulations should be exactly.

I don't agree with this statement. Yes, both conservatives and liberals believe there is an amount of regulation that is acceptable. Conservatives typically aren't anarchists. Liberals typically aren't full-socialists. The disagreement is the amount of regulation, and where to draw the line. Though this is the idealized version of reality. In actuality, there are of course a host of political reasons conservatives ma…

The current bipartisan issue is that the line is invisible and therefore impossible to regulate. Of course, Google has a trade secrets case for the line being invisible.

The government makes Coke list the ingredients and nutrition facts, but doesn't make them reveal the secret formula. Maybe there's a similar way to regulate Search?

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