Cisco ‘secured visas for foreign workers instead of hiring US citizens’: report
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Re: Cisco ‘secured visas for foreign workers instead of hiring US citizens’: report
#2US citizens need visa ?
Re: Cisco ‘secured visas for foreign workers instead of hiring US citizens’: report
#3The title does not match the headline on the website. The headline should better reflect the headline: "H-1B visa-reliant Cisco ‘secured visas for foreign workers instead of hiring U.S. citizens’: report"
Otherwise, it seems obvious that US citizens would not need visas.
Re: Cisco ‘secured visas for foreign workers instead of hiring US citizens’: report
#4I think quite a lot of companies are visa reliant. Amazon's H-1B issuance is up 78%.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/08/13/h-1b-use-skyrocketed-...
Meanwhile there are a bunch of northeast restaurants and crab houses who can't get H-2B seasonal workers at all, and very much need them - they're not getting Americans to do that work. http://www.wboc.com/story/38923157/empty-crab-houses-look-to...
Seems like a disproportionate increase on the one hand, and disproportionate decrease on the other hand.
Re: Cisco ‘secured visas for foreign workers instead of hiring US citizens’: report
#5The title does not match the headline on the website. The headline should better reflect the headline: "H-1B visa-reliant Cisco ‘secured visas for foreign workers instead of hiring U.S. citizens’: report" Otherwise, it seems obvious that US citizens would not need visas.
Thanks. We took a crack at fitting it in 80 chars.
Submitted title was "H-1B visa-reliant Cisco secured visas for foreign workers instead of US citizens"
Re: Cisco ‘secured visas for foreign workers instead of hiring US citizens’: report
#6Securing visas for (and hiring) foreign workers instead of citizens, in itself, is not criminal or wrong -- and absolutely the thing to do when the foreign employees bring skills not available locally.
The problem is when this process is used to save on salaries, favoring foreigners over locals on the basis of being able to pay foreigners less only. The article alleges (without evidence!†) that this is what happened.
Better headline: Cisco pays visa-holding employees less.
This proposed headline, IMO, is more likely to evoke the rational response (Cisco must pay its visa-holding employees a higher salary), rather than the irrational one (dey turk ur jerbs). Perhaps that's why it was not used.
† An average salary of $130K cited in the article matches the average salary of a good software engineer in the area. More needs to be said for the statement against Cisco to have any merit, in my opinion.
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#7Securing visas for (and hiring) foreign workers instead of citizens, in itself, is not criminal or wrong -- and absolutely the thing to do when the foreign employees bring skills not available locally. The problem is when this process is used to save on salaries, favoring foreigners over locals on the basis of being able to pay foreigners less only. The article alleges (without evidence!†) that this is what happened.…
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#85 out of the 6 people who interviewed me at Amazon had foreign accents. Do Americans just not go into tech anymore? Are there not enough? Do they ask for too much money? Are they too lazy? Are they not smart enough? I don't understand it. I heard they'd been hiring like crazy - I'm a pretty good software engineer but I didn't get the job. Maybe I told them I want too much money.
No kids, no land, half of my wages go to a foreign landlord who I've never met. America.
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#9Discussion yesterday on a similar article titled: Cisco Said to Be Cited for Bias Against U.S. Workers (bloomberglaw.com)
Re: Cisco ‘secured visas for foreign workers instead of hiring US citizens’: report
#10Securing visas for (and hiring) foreign workers instead of citizens, in itself, is not criminal or wrong -- and absolutely the thing to do when the foreign employees bring skills not available locally. The problem is when this process is used to save on salaries, favoring foreigners over locals on the basis of being able to pay foreigners less only. The article alleges (without evidence!†) that this is what happened.…
How is not wanting competition from aliens in the labor market irrational for native workers? Restricting the labor supply in the market always and everywhere improves labor’s share of societal wealth.