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Endocrine-disrupting chemical exposure in US: disease burden and cost analysis

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Consider the possibility that some such chemicals are good for society. For example, exposure to pseudoestrogens may reduce violence. Medical literature doesn't really have a category for this -- there is only 'burden and cost' of environmental effects, assuming that any change from evolved human biology is bad.

But it seems like evolved human biology is a little too violent for the society we want, and perhaps we'd benefit from even more X in the water/air/food supply.

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Consider the possibility that some such chemicals are good for society. For example, exposure to pseudoestrogens may reduce violence. Medical literature doesn't really have a category for this -- there is only 'burden and cost' of environmental effects, assuming that any change from evolved human biology is bad. But it seems like evolved human biology is a little too violent for the society we want, and perhaps we'd…

You should work for the pharmaceutical companies to get Xanax added to the water supply.

Just imagine how much crime would go down if everyone was too chill to steal or murder!

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Consider the possibility that some such chemicals are good for society. For example, exposure to pseudoestrogens may reduce violence. Medical literature doesn't really have a category for this -- there is only 'burden and cost' of environmental effects, assuming that any change from evolved human biology is bad. But it seems like evolved human biology is a little too violent for the society we want, and perhaps we'd…

lol, and smoking has health benefits!

Yes, there's a chance. But, if history is any guide, not a good one.

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Consider the possibility that some such chemicals are good for society. For example, exposure to pseudoestrogens may reduce violence. Medical literature doesn't really have a category for this -- there is only 'burden and cost' of environmental effects, assuming that any change from evolved human biology is bad. But it seems like evolved human biology is a little too violent for the society we want, and perhaps we'd…

Regardless of whether or not one agrees with your position (that our society could benefit from even more X in the water/air/food supply), it would need to be the stated purpose of distributing X in order for it to be acceptable. If the increased distribution of X is simply a side-effect, then it is unacceptable (even if the end result is viewed positively by some).

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Consider the possibility that some such chemicals are good for society. For example, exposure to pseudoestrogens may reduce violence. Medical literature doesn't really have a category for this -- there is only 'burden and cost' of environmental effects, assuming that any change from evolved human biology is bad. But it seems like evolved human biology is a little too violent for the society we want, and perhaps we'd…

This is a perfect example of naive intervention. there is no evidence that pseudoestrogens may reduce violence and I have no idea how you came to such a ludicrous conclusion.

Is it because you believe the myth that high testosterone causes violence? That "roid rage" people normally picture when thinking of people who do steroids is actually people who neglect or don't put enough effort into post cycle therapy or aromatase inhibitors to LOWER their estrogen levels.

Yes taking steroids greatly increases Estrogen levels as well and this is the main reason many men who have done steroids without proper cycling have some semblance of breasts...

If anything this "violent" society you speak of is most likely a result of these pseudoestrogens / xenoestrogens and other endocrine disrupting chemicals.

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Consider the possibility that some such chemicals are good for society. For example, exposure to pseudoestrogens may reduce violence. Medical literature doesn't really have a category for this -- there is only 'burden and cost' of environmental effects, assuming that any change from evolved human biology is bad. But it seems like evolved human biology is a little too violent for the society we want, and perhaps we'd…

Let's just castrate ugly men.

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Consider the possibility that some such chemicals are good for society. For example, exposure to pseudoestrogens may reduce violence. Medical literature doesn't really have a category for this -- there is only 'burden and cost' of environmental effects, assuming that any change from evolved human biology is bad. But it seems like evolved human biology is a little too violent for the society we want, and perhaps we'd…

This is the kind of perverse-nightmare-thought I only imagined strummed along in the heads of the psychopathic power hungry.

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Consider the possibility that some such chemicals are good for society. For example, exposure to pseudoestrogens may reduce violence. Medical literature doesn't really have a category for this -- there is only 'burden and cost' of environmental effects, assuming that any change from evolved human biology is bad. But it seems like evolved human biology is a little too violent for the society we want, and perhaps we'd…

This is a perfect example of naive intervention. there is no evidence that pseudoestrogens may reduce violence and I have no idea how you came to such a ludicrous conclusion. Is it because you believe the myth that high testosterone causes violence? That "roid rage" people normally picture when thinking of people who do steroids is actually people who neglect or don't put enough effort into post cycle therapy or arom…

The positive correlation between testosterone and violence is not a myth in animals.

It has also been observed in humans, though the correlation is weak[1].

1. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S135917890...

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Consider the possibility that some such chemicals are good for society. For example, exposure to pseudoestrogens may reduce violence. Medical literature doesn't really have a category for this -- there is only 'burden and cost' of environmental effects, assuming that any change from evolved human biology is bad. But it seems like evolved human biology is a little too violent for the society we want, and perhaps we'd…

This is a perfect example of naive intervention. there is no evidence that pseudoestrogens may reduce violence and I have no idea how you came to such a ludicrous conclusion. Is it because you believe the myth that high testosterone causes violence? That "roid rage" people normally picture when thinking of people who do steroids is actually people who neglect or don't put enough effort into post cycle therapy or arom…

You posted pseudoscience of your own to counter pseudoscience.

Where is the evidence that lack of "post cycle therapy," which isn't accepted science in itself, and estrogen causes violence?

I don't see any evidence of what you suggest on Cochrane Collab.

https://us.cochrane.org/

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