Evolving Floorplans

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Post by prakashk » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 11:53 AM UTC

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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Post by jmilloy » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 1:52 PM UTC

These kinds of tools are mostly about the input constraints, heuristics, and weights. I'd love to see more about this with more practical constraints (rectilinear rooms and hallways, minimum area for cafetaria/gym, etc) and additional heuristics, such as window area in classrooms, number of hallways/intersections for ease-of-navigation, and building costs beyond just material use.

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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Post by lawlessone » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 2:39 PM UTC

Those floor plans creep me out and i don't know why.

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Post by pavel_lishin » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 2:40 PM UTC

lawlessone wrote: post #3

Those floor plans creep me out and i don't know why.

Probably because they definitely don't feel like anything created by a human mind.

I'd love to see these visualized in first-person, so I could walk through them and look around.

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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Post by tw1010 » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 2:55 PM UTC

Sure, it looks cool. But there are so many other properties of a home that aren't accounted for in this model (mostly aesthetic ones, like cozyness, feelings of safety/comfort, how the plan interacts with light, etc). One day we'll live in homes with automated floorplans, I'm sure of it. But it won't happen (or at least, we won't be happy about living in such things) until the day we figure out ways to deal with more dimensions than efficiency (who knows, maybe crowdsourcing ratings of CGI rendered apartments will be the answer, somehow it'll be solved).

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Post by zellyn » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 2:55 PM UTC

I love this. It makes me believe that our sci-fi future might be more in line with the Timeless Way of Building than with cinderblock utilitarianism.

I too would love to see a 3D environment built from these, so we could get a feel for them.

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Post by lawlessone » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 2:57 PM UTC

pavel_lishin wrote: post #4

lawlessone wrote: post #3

Those floor plans creep me out and i don't know why.

Probably because they definitely don't feel like anything created by a human mind. I'd love to see these visualized in first-person, so I could walk through them and look around.

It's Kafkaesque i think

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Post by yoz-y » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 2:58 PM UTC

I've been in a few apartments that had novelty floor plans without right angles. All of them were terrible. Granted I have not been in one owned by somebody rich or skilled enough to only have custom made furniture.

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Post by ballenf » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 3:00 PM UTC

lawlessone wrote: post #3

Those floor plans creep me out and i don't know why.

They give the impression of the building being alive. And therefore your presence is potentially a threat that it will deal with and you'll be trapped for an eternity in an endless maze of reconfiguring hallways and dead ends.

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Post by ireland352 » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 3:02 PM UTC

tw1010 wrote: post #5

Sure, it looks cool. But there are so many other properties of a home that aren't accounted for in this model (mostly aesthetic ones, like cozyness, feelings of safety/comfort, how the plan interacts with light, etc). One day we'll live in homes with automated floorplans, I'm sure of it. But it won't happen (or at least, we won't be happy about living in such things) until the day we figure out ways to deal with more…

I was at a vehicle AI conference early this month discussing how AI will only output based on the quality of its inputs. And the fear coming out of that conference was if space wasn't correctly dedicated or allocated, the AI will optimize the systems as much as it can to squeeze out every single ounce of efficiency.

Qualitative items such as the ones listed are important for customer focused environments, however, I'm not sure if AI can account for such factors.

This post is quite timely.