The Four Thieves Vinegar Collective
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The Four Thieves Vinegar Collective
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#2> “The rhetoric that is espoused by people who defend intellectual property law is that this is theft,” Laufer told me. “If you accept that axiomatically, then by the same logic when you withhold access to lifesaving medication that's murder. From a moral standpoint it's an imperative to enact theft to prevent murder.”
Exactly what I would also say as pro capitalist but anti patent.
The article is not about anarchism. It is about not staying idle while people can't afford drugs. The methods may be questionable, like the partnership with dealers. But at least they try to do something.
I just hope there is a way for them to make money without legal risks
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#3These people are Hackers.
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#4> “The rhetoric that is espoused by people who defend intellectual property law is that this is theft,” Laufer told me. “If you accept that axiomatically, then by the same logic when you withhold access to lifesaving medication that's murder. From a moral standpoint it's an imperative to enact theft to prevent murder.” Exactly what I would also say as pro capitalist but anti patent. The article is not about anarchism…
I don't see how that's a pro capitalist argument. Your not getting rid of a monopoly on the IP, you are compelling people to give up there property to prevent a worse evil
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#5I wish there was an equivalent of CI and peer-reviewed pull-requested contribution to their system, to ease collaborative improvement to the methods. You'd really want many sets of eyes able to look at all aspects of the drugs to vastly reduce risk.
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#6I don’t know if YC proactively seeks organizations to fund but these folks look like a pretty small potential investment with a huge social win. If ever there was a time to “do good” with that enormous pile of capital and connections y’all have— this might be it.
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#7This is truly amazing work, and I hope they are able to achieve their goals. The future of humanity depends on it.
If you want to help, they need someone to crack a rar file containing the Chematica data (which was acquired by Merck pharmaceuticals)
https://twitter.com/MichaelSLaufer/status/102263726560276889...
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#8> “The rhetoric that is espoused by people who defend intellectual property law is that this is theft,” Laufer told me. “If you accept that axiomatically, then by the same logic when you withhold access to lifesaving medication that's murder. From a moral standpoint it's an imperative to enact theft to prevent murder.” Exactly what I would also say as pro capitalist but anti patent. The article is not about anarchism…
I don't see how that's a pro capitalist argument. Your not getting rid of a monopoly on the IP, you are compelling people to give up there property to prevent a worse evil
You asked before that I clarify my arguments.
If the recipe is so secret, do not patent it. Some companies forgo patents for that reason.
Here nobody is compelling anyone. My anti patent point just means not letting the government enforce IP rights. In case like these, it is not just ideology - it is morally wrong as explained in the quote.
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#9> After a few minutes of gloating about pharma bro Martin Shkreli “rotting at Fort Dix” for raising the price of Daraprim
Except that’s totally unrelated to why he’s in prison.
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#10> After a few minutes of gloating about pharma bro Martin Shkreli “rotting at Fort Dix” for raising the price of Daraprim Except that’s totally unrelated to why he’s in prison.
Right, that bothered me a little too.