Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
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Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
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Re: Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
#2I've noticed a trend. When people sit around and talk about forking a project, it doesn't happen.
When someone forks a project, there's a chance it'll take off.
You can't convince someone else to fork something. If they had the drive to fork it, they wouldn't need convincing in the first place.
Re: Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
#3I've noticed a trend. When people sit around and talk about forking a project, it doesn't happen. When someone forks a project, there's a chance it'll take off. You can't convince someone else to fork something. If they had the drive to fork it, they wouldn't need convincing in the first place.
Yeah, this is "Armchair forking" -- happens all the time.
As you see in this blogpost it starts with the most important thing -- naming the new fork and then goes into some politics and maybe even release schedule.
Of course, the second the "Post blog" button has been pressed it's all forgotten as nobody wants to actually spend time working on this.
Re: Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
#4I've noticed a trend. When people sit around and talk about forking a project, it doesn't happen. When someone forks a project, there's a chance it'll take off. You can't convince someone else to fork something. If they had the drive to fork it, they wouldn't need convincing in the first place.
I was watching a video on TED the other day about this phenomenon. If you talk about your goals your brain releases the chemicals that are needed to make you feel that you have actually done something. You "feel good" about doing something even if you haven't actually done it. Having already felt good about your self you have little to no motivation to start doing it.
In contrast, if you don't talk about your goals then you really try to achieve them because you know at the end you will "feel good".
Re: Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
#5Oracle hasn't canceled JavaFX - they're discontinuing JavaFX script. JavaFX is going to live on through an API (third time's the charm for a Java UI API?).
Re: Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
#6I've noticed a trend. When people sit around and talk about forking a project, it doesn't happen. When someone forks a project, there's a chance it'll take off. You can't convince someone else to fork something. If they had the drive to fork it, they wouldn't need convincing in the first place.
I was watching a video on TED the other day about this phenomenon. If you talk about your goals your brain releases the chemicals that are needed to make you feel that you have actually done something. You "feel good" about doing something even if you haven't actually done it. Having already felt good about your self you have little to no motivation to start doing it. In contrast, if you don't talk about your goals t…
That sounds interesting, which TED talk was it?
Re: Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
#7Can't we just get IBM to make J9 free & open? Last I checked, they supported more OSes than Sun did and the VM was pretty speedy too.
Re: Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
#8I've noticed a trend. When people sit around and talk about forking a project, it doesn't happen. When someone forks a project, there's a chance it'll take off. You can't convince someone else to fork something. If they had the drive to fork it, they wouldn't need convincing in the first place.
Isn't it generally the case that when people sit down and talk about x, it doesn't happen?
Re: Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was watching a video on TED the other day about this phenomenon. If you talk about your goals your brain releases the chemicals that are needed to make you feel that you have actually done something. You "feel good" about doing something even if you haven't actually done it. Having already felt good about your self you have little to no motivation to start doing it. In contrast, if you don't talk about your goals t…
That sounds interesting, which TED talk was it?
He probably meant this talk: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/derek_sivers_keep_your_goa...
Re: Java as we know it is over. Time to fork?
#10I doubt that even the best quality fork can compete with Oracles sales machine, no matter how badly they ruin Java. Even if all the great and passionate Java developers leave to become Python programmers, Java will still be the most common language out there.