Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
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Re: Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
#2A few months ago Intel pulled a stunt where they showed a 28 core 5GHz CPU, implying it was a production CPU that would ship this year. They failed to mention that it was attached to an industrial compressor to supply the necessary cooling for the overclocked CPU, and that it was a server socket (https://www.anandtech.com/show/12932/intel-confirms-some-det...).
Since then, whenever I see a headline with Intel in it, I heavily discount it until I can verify the facts. They’ve damaged my trust, and I suspect many others.
Re: Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
#3A few months ago Intel pulled a stunt where they showed a 28 core 5GHz CPU, implying it was a production CPU that would ship this year. They failed to mention that it was attached to an industrial compressor to supply the necessary cooling for the overclocked CPU, and that it was a server socket ( https://www.anandtech.com/show/12932/intel-confirms-some-det... ). Since then, whenever I see a headline with Intel in it…
Case in point:
> chips will support up to 3.84 TB of memory per socket ... due to combining 512 GB Optane DIMMs and 128GB DDR4 DIMMs
> ...
> in a 6 x Optane and 6 x DDR4 configuration, they will provide 3072 GB of 3D XPoint memory and 768 GB of DDR4 RAM for a total of 3.84 TB of memory
Optane DIMMs don't really have the performance characteristics of traditional DRAM. It sounds like the real capacity per socket is 12 x 128GB = 1.53 GB, which is the same capacity as the previous generation.
That being said, I'm optimistic about Optane DIMMs - it seems like an interesting performance point in between DRAM and SSDs.
Re: Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
#4A few months ago Intel pulled a stunt where they showed a 28 core 5GHz CPU, implying it was a production CPU that would ship this year. They failed to mention that it was attached to an industrial compressor to supply the necessary cooling for the overclocked CPU, and that it was a server socket ( https://www.anandtech.com/show/12932/intel-confirms-some-det... ). Since then, whenever I see a headline with Intel in it…
Case in point: > chips will support up to 3.84 TB of memory per socket ... due to combining 512 GB Optane DIMMs and 128GB DDR4 DIMMs > ... > in a 6 x Optane and 6 x DDR4 configuration, they will provide 3072 GB of 3D XPoint memory and 768 GB of DDR4 RAM for a total of 3.84 TB of memory Optane DIMMs don't really have the performance characteristics of traditional DRAM. It sounds like the real capacity per socket is 12…
Tiny correction: Should be 1.53 TB, not 1.53 GB
Re: Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
#5A few months ago Intel pulled a stunt where they showed a 28 core 5GHz CPU, implying it was a production CPU that would ship this year. They failed to mention that it was attached to an industrial compressor to supply the necessary cooling for the overclocked CPU, and that it was a server socket ( https://www.anandtech.com/show/12932/intel-confirms-some-det... ). Since then, whenever I see a headline with Intel in it…
Case in point: > chips will support up to 3.84 TB of memory per socket ... due to combining 512 GB Optane DIMMs and 128GB DDR4 DIMMs > ... > in a 6 x Optane and 6 x DDR4 configuration, they will provide 3072 GB of 3D XPoint memory and 768 GB of DDR4 RAM for a total of 3.84 TB of memory Optane DIMMs don't really have the performance characteristics of traditional DRAM. It sounds like the real capacity per socket is 12…
Yeah, marketing lies. Go AMD go!
Re: Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
#6A few months ago Intel pulled a stunt where they showed a 28 core 5GHz CPU, implying it was a production CPU that would ship this year. They failed to mention that it was attached to an industrial compressor to supply the necessary cooling for the overclocked CPU, and that it was a server socket ( https://www.anandtech.com/show/12932/intel-confirms-some-det... ). Since then, whenever I see a headline with Intel in it…
Case in point: > chips will support up to 3.84 TB of memory per socket ... due to combining 512 GB Optane DIMMs and 128GB DDR4 DIMMs > ... > in a 6 x Optane and 6 x DDR4 configuration, they will provide 3072 GB of 3D XPoint memory and 768 GB of DDR4 RAM for a total of 3.84 TB of memory Optane DIMMs don't really have the performance characteristics of traditional DRAM. It sounds like the real capacity per socket is 12…
Intel keep positioning optane as "close to dram" preformance (especially with misleading marketing nonsense like this), it does have some advantages over flash, mostly related to random access times, but its nowhere near the orders of magnitude more preformant that something would require to fill the preformance point between DRAM and SSDs.
Optane is almost entirely hype, with no substance.
Re: Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
#7A few months ago Intel pulled a stunt where they showed a 28 core 5GHz CPU, implying it was a production CPU that would ship this year. They failed to mention that it was attached to an industrial compressor to supply the necessary cooling for the overclocked CPU, and that it was a server socket ( https://www.anandtech.com/show/12932/intel-confirms-some-det... ). Since then, whenever I see a headline with Intel in it…
In addition, their (mis)handling of spectre/meltdown PR also eroded trust IMHO.
Re: Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
#8A few months ago Intel pulled a stunt where they showed a 28 core 5GHz CPU, implying it was a production CPU that would ship this year. They failed to mention that it was attached to an industrial compressor to supply the necessary cooling for the overclocked CPU, and that it was a server socket ( https://www.anandtech.com/show/12932/intel-confirms-some-det... ). Since then, whenever I see a headline with Intel in it…
> and that it was a server socket
What's wrong with that? High-end workstations often have the same sockets as servers don't they? Did they say it wasn't a server socket?
Re: Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Case in point: > chips will support up to 3.84 TB of memory per socket ... due to combining 512 GB Optane DIMMs and 128GB DDR4 DIMMs > ... > in a 6 x Optane and 6 x DDR4 configuration, they will provide 3072 GB of 3D XPoint memory and 768 GB of DDR4 RAM for a total of 3.84 TB of memory Optane DIMMs don't really have the performance characteristics of traditional DRAM. It sounds like the real capacity per socket is 12…
Tiny correction: Should be 1.53 TB, not 1.53 GB
Certainly not tiny, off by 32 bit
Re: Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
#10I've weighed up the pros and cons, and my next processor will be the 32 core AMD cpu. This seems much better value than anything Intel has to offer.