High-tech deception of ‘deepfake’ videos
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High-tech deception of ‘deepfake’ videos
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Re: High-tech deception of ‘deepfake’ videos
#2I have to agree that this will be inevitable. Fake videos _will_ be created to spread misinformation.
I bring you no solutions. Our best programmatic tool for these kinds of video analysis is currently the exact same technology that enables it in the first place. Furthermore, any neural network that can detect fake videos will only be used adversarially to train a better deep fake creator!
The only solution I see is the camera somehow cryptographically signing the video, and enabling users to easily check whether the signature is valid. However I don't think this is feasible, due to the amount of cooperation we'd need between camera makers and video distribution platforms, especially since it's not really in the businesses direct line of best interest help.
The world's going to start getting real surreal.
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#3I'd be more concerned with US officials using this technology to indict innocent people who disagree with them. Being able to conjure up a confession for anything by anyone is extremely powerful, given that the alternatives to accomplish the same thing today are basically apprehension and torture/threats.
Re: High-tech deception of ‘deepfake’ videos
#4I have to agree that this will be inevitable. Fake videos _will_ be created to spread misinformation. I bring you no solutions. Our best programmatic tool for these kinds of video analysis is currently the exact same technology that enables it in the first place. Furthermore, any neural network that can detect fake videos will only be used adversarially to train a better deep fake creator! The only solution I see is…
Can we develop something to put in videos that are real? Maybe something built into the software or maybe even some icon you have to hold up behind someone like the president to at least make deepfakes difficult/impossible? Just spit-balling as I also see no point in video analysis
Re: High-tech deception of ‘deepfake’ videos
#5I have to agree that this will be inevitable. Fake videos _will_ be created to spread misinformation. I bring you no solutions. Our best programmatic tool for these kinds of video analysis is currently the exact same technology that enables it in the first place. Furthermore, any neural network that can detect fake videos will only be used adversarially to train a better deep fake creator! The only solution I see is…
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Re: High-tech deception of ‘deepfake’ videos
#6I have to agree that this will be inevitable. Fake videos _will_ be created to spread misinformation. I bring you no solutions. Our best programmatic tool for these kinds of video analysis is currently the exact same technology that enables it in the first place. Furthermore, any neural network that can detect fake videos will only be used adversarially to train a better deep fake creator! The only solution I see is…
The only thing that can be done is use contextual evidence to disprove the possibility of a video being real but that puts a disproportionate on the victim of a fake video.
Will the government be in the business of commenting on the veracity of whatever video(s) they anticipate coming? And if they say it's fake (or real), will the public believe them?
Re: High-tech deception of ‘deepfake’ videos
#7I'd be more concerned with US officials using this technology to indict innocent people who disagree with them. Being able to conjure up a confession for anything by anyone is extremely powerful, given that the alternatives to accomplish the same thing today are basically apprehension and torture/threats.
That's an interesting application. With skepticism spreading about many forensic tools like fingerprints, burn analysis, bite analysis, etc. the confession has stayed the ultimate indicator of guilt to most of the public. I wonder if we may be entering another era of 'reasonable doubt'.
Re: High-tech deception of ‘deepfake’ videos
#8I'd be more concerned with US officials using this technology to indict innocent people who disagree with them. Being able to conjure up a confession for anything by anyone is extremely powerful, given that the alternatives to accomplish the same thing today are basically apprehension and torture/threats.
>Being able to conjure up a confession for anything by anyone is extremely powerful
Being able to dismiss credible video evidence as 'deepfake' is equally powerful.
In any case, it would be extremely risky to hang a case on a single confession video that the accused claims is fake, given the current pattern of prosecution the DOJ would never bring that case; it would be embarrassing in the public eye and probably overturned on appeal, if it even made it to trial.
Re: High-tech deception of ‘deepfake’ videos
#9You should never trust digital media.
You should be extremely selective about what analog media you trust.
If you weren't there to see it happen yourself, all you've got to go on is somebody else's perception. Be careful who you trust.
Re: High-tech deception of ‘deepfake’ videos
#10As a filmmaker I am both in awe and horrified with this.
Some of these techniques can be used to make fixes in motion picture where it would be far too expensive to reshoot.
But there is the opposite where this technology can be used to falsify a video that can potentially be used to make false confessions or change what a person said for nefarious purposes.
Welcome to the world of what was once thought to be science fiction.