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Seems we allow this now; if someone is truly intent they will find a way.
I'm no psychologist, but would anyone who -wants- to self-terminate be considered a "healthy person"? Legitimate question -- I can't imagine someone who is in good health, has good relationships, and has a good possible "life trajectory" to want to self-terminate.
> Seems we allow this now; if someone is truly intent they will find a way.
I disagree that we "allow this", because it's almost impossible to stop it completely (by force & legislation, ignoring the effects of education & awareness).
It is illegal to do it to yourself (for insurance reasons, I believe), and it's illegal to assist someone else.
Again, I have no background knowledge here. Would be interesting to see some different perspectives.
how about divorcing your wife/husband, thus hurting her/him, your children and others? Should anyone be allowed to do that?
There's a huge difference between the damage of divorce vs. the damage of death.
I have Type 1 diabetes and do well managing it. I run long distances and if you saw me you’d think I was a normal athletic and fairly fit person. So technically I’m currently healthy but longterm who knows.
But even before I was diagnosed (early 30s) I was sick of being alive. I was never drawn to having children, hate working, and don’t make that much money.
If I had the option of never waking up again, I’d take it. Probably take a little time to blow my savings first, but I don’t have much to look forward to.
Absolutely. I believe it’s possible to have had enough life. I have Type 1 diabetes and do well managing it. I run long distances and if you saw me you’d think I was a normal athletic and fairly fit person. So technically I’m currently healthy but longterm who knows. But even before I was diagnosed (early 30s) I was sick of being alive. I was never drawn to having children, hate working, and don’t make that much mone…
It sounds like you might be in a bad place mentally. I'm sure that it wouldn't hurt to talk to a professional. Worst case, you spend an hour or two and maybe a co-pay and still feel the same way you do now. Best case they may make every day a little bit more bearable.
Absolutely. I believe it’s possible to have had enough life. I have Type 1 diabetes and do well managing it. I run long distances and if you saw me you’d think I was a normal athletic and fairly fit person. So technically I’m currently healthy but longterm who knows. But even before I was diagnosed (early 30s) I was sick of being alive. I was never drawn to having children, hate working, and don’t make that much mone…
That seems pretty unfair to the people that care about you. They might not even be family or close friends, but might be acquaintances, distant co-workers, or people you see on the street. They get happiness out of interacting with you and having you with them. It doesn't seem right to take that away from them. It sounds like you might be in a bad place mentally. I'm sure that it wouldn't hurt to talk to a profession…
Imagine being trapped in an unwanted life, wanting to die, but staying alive because it is “right” for others.
Some simply want to be dead, not seek medical help. The arrangement of western life, however, is that one is expected to “seek help” when they’ve decided to pack it in.
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That seems pretty unfair to the people that care about you. They might not even be family or close friends, but might be acquaintances, distant co-workers, or people you see on the street. They get happiness out of interacting with you and having you with them. It doesn't seem right to take that away from them. It sounds like you might be in a bad place mentally. I'm sure that it wouldn't hurt to talk to a profession…
Thankfully I’ve never procreated. Imagine being trapped in an unwanted life, wanting to die, but staying alive because it is “right” for others. Some simply want to be dead, not seek medical help. The arrangement of western life, however, is that one is expected to “seek help” when they’ve decided to pack it in.
I guess I don't understand how life is wanted/unwanted. I have no concept of what it is like to not have life, so how could I possibly prefer it? I think because I can't rationalize it makes me think that something else might be at play. At the end of the day seeking medical help has very little downside even if it isn't helpful. Not seeking medical help when it could have been helpful seems like it has a tremendous amount of downside with very little upside.
Absolutely. I believe it’s possible to have had enough life. I have Type 1 diabetes and do well managing it. I run long distances and if you saw me you’d think I was a normal athletic and fairly fit person. So technically I’m currently healthy but longterm who knows. But even before I was diagnosed (early 30s) I was sick of being alive. I was never drawn to having children, hate working, and don’t make that much mone…
That seems pretty unfair to the people that care about you. They might not even be family or close friends, but might be acquaintances, distant co-workers, or people you see on the street. They get happiness out of interacting with you and having you with them. It doesn't seem right to take that away from them. It sounds like you might be in a bad place mentally. I'm sure that it wouldn't hurt to talk to a profession…
But I would never do anything while my cat, dad, and grandma are still alive. My partner would understand my decision. Other than that there’s not really anybody else I care enough about to change my life for.
I already spend enough on medicine and doctors. I’m not interested in any more.
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That seems pretty unfair to the people that care about you. They might not even be family or close friends, but might be acquaintances, distant co-workers, or people you see on the street. They get happiness out of interacting with you and having you with them. It doesn't seem right to take that away from them. It sounds like you might be in a bad place mentally. I'm sure that it wouldn't hurt to talk to a profession…
Honestly, lots of things are unfair. That’s not a great argument. But I would never do anything while my cat, dad, and grandma are still alive. My partner would understand my decision. Other than that there’s not really anybody else I care enough about to change my life for. I already spend enough on medicine and doctors. I’m not interested in any more.
In regards to spending enough on medicine and doctors, I guess I don't fully understand that. You mention blowing through your money at some point. Any reason why this wouldn't be something worth blowing money on?