Intel accused of age discrimination
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Intel accused of age discrimination
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Re: Intel accused of age discrimination
#2It's weird that the article pulls out statistics that underline Intels wrongdoing (ρ(age, awareness of rights/pay/...) but not the statistics that might be the reason: Older people are less innovative, learn slower and so on. Ergo, if you're for example firing the bottom percentile of "adapted the new data entry tool", there is a good chance that the avg will be higher than the avg of all people working there
Re: Intel accused of age discrimination
#3> older workers tend to be better paid
So, if the metric is "remove employees that cost the most but don't seem to justify the cost," it's going to look like age discrimination, even if it wasn't.
I don't know whether Intel did this or not, but the point is that you can't assume the intent by the result alone.
Re: Intel accused of age discrimination
#4> older workers tend to be better paid So, if the metric is "remove employees that cost the most but don't seem to justify the cost," it's going to look like age discrimination, even if it wasn't. I don't know whether Intel did this or not, but the point is that you can't assume the intent by the result alone.
I don't know whether Intel did this or not, but the point is that you can't assume the intent by the result alone
Would you feel differently if the case were about race instead of age? For example, if Intel laid off a population of people that was 22% African American while the population of the people remaining in the company was 10% African American, would you feel the same way?
Re: Intel accused of age discrimination
#5> older workers tend to be better paid So, if the metric is "remove employees that cost the most but don't seem to justify the cost," it's going to look like age discrimination, even if it wasn't. I don't know whether Intel did this or not, but the point is that you can't assume the intent by the result alone.
I don't know whether Intel did this or not, but the point is that you can't assume the intent by the result alone Would you feel differently if the case were about race instead of age? For example, if Intel laid off a population of people that was 22% African American while the population of the people remaining in the company was 10% African American, would you feel the same way?
Isn’t the argument that women and racial minorities are “paid less for the same work”? In which case laying off white and asian men would presumably be the economically efficient choice?
(I definitely think such a gap has existed at various times and places. There was a UK enterprise software firm founded by a women which hired mainly stay at home mothers and did amazingly well.)
Re: Intel accused of age discrimination
#6Gotta keep those toxic white males out to prevent a lack of diversity, right?
Re: Intel accused of age discrimination
#7> older workers tend to be better paid So, if the metric is "remove employees that cost the most but don't seem to justify the cost," it's going to look like age discrimination, even if it wasn't. I don't know whether Intel did this or not, but the point is that you can't assume the intent by the result alone.
I don't know whether Intel did this or not, but the point is that you can't assume the intent by the result alone Would you feel differently if the case were about race instead of age? For example, if Intel laid off a population of people that was 22% African American while the population of the people remaining in the company was 10% African American, would you feel the same way?
We have a societally-accepted reason for older people to earn more -- experience, responsibility, and time-in-grade are correlated both age and pay. The same cannot be said for race or sex.
Re: Intel accused of age discrimination
#8Related, from earlier layoffs:
http://chemjobber.blogspot.com/2015/08/a-clarifying-graph-of...
Re: Intel accused of age discrimination
#9> older workers tend to be better paid So, if the metric is "remove employees that cost the most but don't seem to justify the cost," it's going to look like age discrimination, even if it wasn't. I don't know whether Intel did this or not, but the point is that you can't assume the intent by the result alone.
I don't know whether Intel did this or not, but the point is that you can't assume the intent by the result alone Would you feel differently if the case were about race instead of age? For example, if Intel laid off a population of people that was 22% African American while the population of the people remaining in the company was 10% African American, would you feel the same way?
You're completely ignoring the justification given, and it's a lot more difficult to translate the full situation to your analogy.
Re: Intel accused of age discrimination
#10> older workers tend to be better paid So, if the metric is "remove employees that cost the most but don't seem to justify the cost," it's going to look like age discrimination, even if it wasn't. I don't know whether Intel did this or not, but the point is that you can't assume the intent by the result alone.
Unless the bosses at Intel just hate older people (unlikely as they are almost all older people) they are doing this for economic reasons alone.
I say this as someone already over-the-hill age wise that we really need to find a way to allow people as they age to be able to accept a lower wage that matches their productivity. Far fewer old people would be made redundant if they got a wage cut every year instead of a raise.