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Why Men Love War (1984)

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Re: Why Men Love War (1984)

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I find it ironic that he talks about the power of love after ditching the Vietnamese girl he was going to have a future with "the way all men betrayed the women who helped them through the war".

Re: Why Men Love War (1984)

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post #3

I find it ironic that he talks about the power of love after ditching the Vietnamese girl he was going to have a future with "the way all men betrayed the women who helped them through the war".

Smearing someone's reputation is probably ok, but only with substantive sources. Otherwise it's far too easy to just throw out a half-truth.

Re: Why Men Love War (1984)

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> But I believe that most men who have been to war would have to admit, if they are honest, that somewhere inside themselves they loved it too, loved it as much as anything that has happened to them before or since.

This sounds conspicuously like the conservative version of the people who say "All men secretly desire to rape women."

Re: Why Men Love War (1984)

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post #2

This is a compelling long read. If the subject is of interest, the movie Restrepo and this talk from Sebastian Junger [1] may be of interest, too. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0zEBhvwXY

Storm of Steel by Ernst Jünger is a WW1 classic that unabashedly explores the primal excitement of war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_J%C3%BCnger

Re: Why Men Love War (1984)

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> But I believe that most men who have been to war would have to admit, if they are honest, that somewhere inside themselves they loved it too, loved it as much as anything that has happened to them before or since. This sounds conspicuously like the conservative version of the people who say "All men secretly desire to rape women."

Those both sound conservative to me, and I'm very conservative.

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> But I believe that most men who have been to war would have to admit, if they are honest, that somewhere inside themselves they loved it too, loved it as much as anything that has happened to them before or since. This sounds conspicuously like the conservative version of the people who say "All men secretly desire to rape women."

Is that really a conservative view? I’ve seen that sentiment on decidedly non conservative sites.

Re: Why Men Love War (1984)

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post #2

This is a compelling long read. If the subject is of interest, the movie Restrepo and this talk from Sebastian Junger [1] may be of interest, too. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0zEBhvwXY

> 42 American soldiers and many more Afghans were killed in the "Valley of Death" before it was finally abandoned, written off as more trouble than it was worth.

Only 42 to get that nickname? After the World Wars happened? Wow. We've gotten soft in modern times.

Re: Why Men Love War (1984)

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> But I believe that most men who have been to war would have to admit, if they are honest, that somewhere inside themselves they loved it too, loved it as much as anything that has happened to them before or since. This sounds conspicuously like the conservative version of the people who say "All men secretly desire to rape women."

Or less controversially: "Everybody pees in the shower".

No, sorry. I know you want to feel justified for doing so. But no.

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