Eating out increases levels of phthalates in the body, study finds
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#4Sounds like this is mostly about fast food chains, not restaurants in general. It also seems like this story should really be about calling out specific restaurants/chains for contaminated food, not presenting it as a general fact about restaurants.
Fast food chains make their food from prepared components that they buy in bulk through some sort of homogenized supply chain. So do most restaurants.
Fast food chains involve a lot of plastic in their food preparation, even hot food and even while cooking. So do most restaurants.
Fast food chains use food components that are optimized for shelf life, using whatever chemicals that the FDA said are "generally recognized as safe" in 1958. So do most restaurants.
And so on.
Places where the chef goes out to the farmer's market every morning, hand-selecting the ingredients, and then painstakingly crafts your meal using only metal and ceramic are the exception rather than the norm.
Even one-off family restaurants where you get "good" food are doing most of this stuff, just because it is the norm, and they don't see anything wrong with it.
If you don't believe me, just go in the kitchen of your favorite restaurant and observe what the chef does and read the ingredients on the big containers of "raw" ingredients.
Re: Eating out increases levels of phthalates in the body, study finds
#5A restaurant is a different thing. In places like Spain, France or Italy when you say "restaurant" you never refer to "MacDonnals", "BurgerKing" or "FostersHollywood".
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#6The headline is misleading
Re: Eating out increases levels of phthalates in the body, study finds
#7Sounds like this is mostly about fast food chains, not restaurants in general. It also seems like this story should really be about calling out specific restaurants/chains for contaminated food, not presenting it as a general fact about restaurants.
There is little difference between "fast food chains" and "restaurants in general". Fast food chains make their food from prepared components that they buy in bulk through some sort of homogenized supply chain. So do most restaurants. Fast food chains involve a lot of plastic in their food preparation, even hot food and even while cooking. So do most restaurants. Fast food chains use food components that are optimize…
There isn't legislation to make sure only X is allowed in a processed food - there are only laws that exclude known harmful things like brain matter because of prions, or antibiotics if labeled as such, or pesticides if labeled as organic. /u/given even linked a study less than 2 weeks ago showing that an array of human vaccines tested had a slew of metal and other contaminants. The only vaccine tested that lacked contaminents was a veterinary vaccine for distemper..smh [1]
The closest, one would think to getting pure macros, is plant or whey-based proteins, carbohydrates, and oils/lipids like coconut oil. But most of the pure plant protein powders and supplements have an even worse infiltration - high levels of metals from the soil the plants were grown in. Highly dependent on the country of origin. Now, I'd garner that if these companies cared enough and could spend more money, they'd be able to chellate or use ion-exchange filters, or maybe just mechnical methods like centrifugal separation / sub-micron filters, etc.. to remove the metals and other undesirables.
Do biological contaminents in plants get even near the possible ones' in animals like cortisol? Does a poorly sunlit plant produce stress chemicals? I'd guess that because the animal kingdom is a divergent evolution to the plant kingdom, harmful compounds would be lesser. Yes, we have phytoestrogens from soy, and tobacco, hemp, poppy, and all kinds of poisonous plants out there. A side note, plant alkaloids serve two functions, to poison to protect the plant or to create desire for the purpose of spreading seeds; this is why poisons are often found on leaves, while desirable drugs or flavors are found on the fruit or seedbearing parts. It's not an easy distinction to make, poison vs drug - many substances we consider drugs are actually made by the plants to protect themselves, ie. tobacco or willow bark (aspirin).
In any case, the chemicals naturally found in acceptable farmed plant species are likely to be less reactive in an animal body, than a poorly treated cortisol-filled animals' internal chemistry.
It'd be awesome if there truly was a micron-filtered food supplement out there. But even Soylent isn't that. The protein powders on the market, pea, crickets, whey, etc.. all have the aforementioned issues with heavy metals or hormones.
It's a grace of our generation to know most of the vitamins and minerals required by our bodies. To be able to eat just pure carbs, fats, and proteins, and pop a vitamin for the rest. But we still don't have food products that provide pure macros. When will we see the futuristic "slab" or "paste" that is literally only a single digit number of compounds? I think it's about time that we get something like this.
I'm actually in the process of producing a bee-derived meal replacement shake that will feature sub-micron filtration. [2] Honey might be your first thought but bee pollen is the main ingredient - it's actually packed with tons of protein and isn't sweet. Let me know if you would be interested in a purely bee honey, pollen, royal jelly based meal replacement. I haven't gauged interest yet so it'd be interesting to see if HN is interested. Cheers.
[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27756430/ [2] https://imgur.com/a/YFTTQ
Re: Eating out increases levels of phthalates in the body, study finds
#8Sounds like this is mostly about fast food chains, not restaurants in general. It also seems like this story should really be about calling out specific restaurants/chains for contaminated food, not presenting it as a general fact about restaurants.
There is little difference between "fast food chains" and "restaurants in general". Fast food chains make their food from prepared components that they buy in bulk through some sort of homogenized supply chain. So do most restaurants. Fast food chains involve a lot of plastic in their food preparation, even hot food and even while cooking. So do most restaurants. Fast food chains use food components that are optimize…
Fast food chains involve a lot of plastic in their food preparation, even hot food and even while cooking. So do most restaurants.
Fast food chains use food components that are optimized for shelf life, using whatever chemicals that the FDA said are "generally recognized as safe" in 1958. So do most restaurants.
Depends if in "non fast-food restaurants" you include a TGIF or a Chipotle.
Re: Eating out increases levels of phthalates in the body, study finds
#9This should be "Eating out in industrialized fast food American food chains increases levels of phthalates in the body". A restaurant is a different thing. In places like Spain, France or Italy when you say "restaurant" you never refer to "MacDonnals", "BurgerKing" or "FostersHollywood".
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#10The result is the same: to save a percent here and there we trash both.