Newsgroups and the Internet Archive: I Made a Difference
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Newsgroups and the Internet Archive: I Made a Difference
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#2I miss dejanews - anyone remember that before Google bought them? They had full search, it's a shame Google let that go. Their search went back to pretty much the beginning of net news. Does that exist anywhere anymore?
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#3It's pretty sad that a bunch of people sent historical Usenet archives to Google, they imported them into Google Groups, and then... basically hid/lost access to it over time. I assume the data is in GFS somewhere but it may never see the light of day. But maybe we just need to shame them every decade: https://www.wired.com/2009/10/usenet/
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#4Usenet was my very first exposure to internet communities. I read and posted on alt.games.nintendo.pokemon between ages 9 and 13, then moved to Something Awful after that.
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#5It's pretty sad that a bunch of people sent historical Usenet archives to Google, they imported them into Google Groups, and then... basically hid/lost access to it over time. I assume the data is in GFS somewhere but it may never see the light of day. But maybe we just need to shame them every decade: https://www.wired.com/2009/10/usenet/
Google Groups was great when they first acquired all those archives! It just got progressively worse and worse over time, and I've never understood why. (Stagnation I could understand, but how did the same searches get less effective?)
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#6I miss dejanews - anyone remember that before Google bought them? They had full search, it's a shame Google let that go. Their search went back to pretty much the beginning of net news. Does that exist anywhere anymore?
Dejanews was simply fantastic. When Google embraced and extinguished it and then later killed the discussion filter from its front page I finally realized the Internet as we knew it until the late 90s/early 2K was dead. It transitioned from an instrument I could use to find people exchanging genuine opinions on stuff to a way to inundate my search result with biased people promoting or selling that stuff.
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#7I'm impressed that Giganews maintains a 10-year archive of Usenet, I suspect that would break most newsreaders.
Re: Newsgroups and the Internet Archive: I Made a Difference
#8It's pretty sad that a bunch of people sent historical Usenet archives to Google, they imported them into Google Groups, and then... basically hid/lost access to it over time. I assume the data is in GFS somewhere but it may never see the light of day. But maybe we just need to shame them every decade: https://www.wired.com/2009/10/usenet/
Google Groups was great when they first acquired all those archives! It just got progressively worse and worse over time, and I've never understood why. (Stagnation I could understand, but how did the same searches get less effective?)
Google search in general has become less effective, so perhaps it simply carried over.
Re: Newsgroups and the Internet Archive: I Made a Difference
#9It's pretty sad that a bunch of people sent historical Usenet archives to Google, they imported them into Google Groups, and then... basically hid/lost access to it over time. I assume the data is in GFS somewhere but it may never see the light of day. But maybe we just need to shame them every decade: https://www.wired.com/2009/10/usenet/
Google Groups was great when they first acquired all those archives! It just got progressively worse and worse over time, and I've never understood why. (Stagnation I could understand, but how did the same searches get less effective?)
I get that Google essentially walked back from an at least implied role as an information archivist. But I still don't really get why they so completely abandoned things like Google Groups given the truly minuscule resources to maintain them at some low level.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google Groups was great when they first acquired all those archives! It just got progressively worse and worse over time, and I've never understood why. (Stagnation I could understand, but how did the same searches get less effective?)
Google search in general has become less effective, so perhaps it simply carried over.
Search is abysmal these days. I'll look for a term with 3 words and it almost always throws out one word, giving me useless results.