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Roskomnadzor recommended operators to block some of Amazon's IP-addresses

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Re: Roskomnadzor recommended operators to block some of Amazon's IP-addresses

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The part of the context (somebody can check the primary sources):

"Unfortunately, the app is also used by terror organizations around the world when giving orders about terror attacks. This is due to the fact that it's very difficult to decode and trace these messages. Rakhmat Akilov used it during the Stockholm attack the 7th of April 2017 when five people were killed and around 150 directly or indirectly hurt, physically or psychologically. Zello was also used by Salman Abedi who killed 22 people, among whom we find many children, during a concert with the artist Ariana Grande in Manchester the 22nd of May 2017. The utilisation of this app among terror groups is described in the book "ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror" from 2015 written by the security experts Hassan Hassan and Michael Weiss."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zello

I've read the first time about

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Stockholm_attack

Re: Roskomnadzor recommended operators to block some of Amazon's IP-addresses

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What will Amazon do? Will they ban Zello from their network?

I would hope not. AFAICT Zello is breaking no laws in their home country, and is not breaking Amazon's TOS. Although it wouldn't be the first time I've been disappointed to see a US company bend their rules to accommodate unrealistic requests from dictatorships.

Re: Roskomnadzor recommended operators to block some of Amazon's IP-addresses

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The part of the context (somebody can check the primary sources): "Unfortunately, the app is also used by terror organizations around the world when giving orders about terror attacks. This is due to the fact that it's very difficult to decode and trace these messages. Rakhmat Akilov used it during the Stockholm attack the 7th of April 2017 when five people were killed and around 150 directly or indirectly hurt, phys…

Internet is also used by terror organizations around the world. Money is also used by terror organizations around the world.

Moreover, oxygen and water are also used by terror organizations around the world.

Re: Roskomnadzor recommended operators to block some of Amazon's IP-addresses

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What will Amazon do? Will they ban Zello from their network?

I would hope not. AFAICT Zello is breaking no laws in their home country, and is not breaking Amazon's TOS. Although it wouldn't be the first time I've been disappointed to see a US company bend their rules to accommodate unrealistic requests from dictatorships.

TOS can be amended. This seems more like the sort of thing you hire CloudFlare to handle, not AWS. Why does this service need to operate from "dozens of subnets"/"14 million IP addresses"?

Re: Roskomnadzor recommended operators to block some of Amazon's IP-addresses

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post #3

The part of the context (somebody can check the primary sources): "Unfortunately, the app is also used by terror organizations around the world when giving orders about terror attacks. This is due to the fact that it's very difficult to decode and trace these messages. Rakhmat Akilov used it during the Stockholm attack the 7th of April 2017 when five people were killed and around 150 directly or indirectly hurt, phys…

Internet is also used by terror organizations around the world. Money is also used by terror organizations around the world. Moreover, oxygen and water are also used by terror organizations around the world.

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Re: Roskomnadzor recommended operators to block some of Amazon's IP-addresses

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The part of the context (somebody can check the primary sources): "Unfortunately, the app is also used by terror organizations around the world when giving orders about terror attacks. This is due to the fact that it's very difficult to decode and trace these messages. Rakhmat Akilov used it during the Stockholm attack the 7th of April 2017 when five people were killed and around 150 directly or indirectly hurt, phys…

Internet is also used by terror organizations around the world. Money is also used by terror organizations around the world. Moreover, oxygen and water are also used by terror organizations around the world.

You may have noticed that it is increasingly difficult to use currency or transfer funds as a result of actions to control transfers. Try taking $10,000 out and using it.

Ditto on internet controls. Remember PRISM?

Re: Roskomnadzor recommended operators to block some of Amazon's IP-addresses

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would hope not. AFAICT Zello is breaking no laws in their home country, and is not breaking Amazon's TOS. Although it wouldn't be the first time I've been disappointed to see a US company bend their rules to accommodate unrealistic requests from dictatorships.

TOS can be amended. This seems more like the sort of thing you hire CloudFlare to handle, not AWS. Why does this service need to operate from "dozens of subnets"/"14 million IP addresses"?

To make it harder to block, I imagine...

Re: Roskomnadzor recommended operators to block some of Amazon's IP-addresses

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post #3

The part of the context (somebody can check the primary sources): "Unfortunately, the app is also used by terror organizations around the world when giving orders about terror attacks. This is due to the fact that it's very difficult to decode and trace these messages. Rakhmat Akilov used it during the Stockholm attack the 7th of April 2017 when five people were killed and around 150 directly or indirectly hurt, phys…

Ironically Zello was also used by Russia for special operations in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine [1].

[1] random link from google: https://informnapalm.org/en/zello-terrorism-experience-russi...

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