Live data from Hacker News

Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

bloomberg.com

1–10 of 62 posts

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

#2
With budget constraints I don’t see how the iPad can compete with cheaper alternatives. The only real advantage I see for the iPad over Chromebook in the education market is that one can digitally markup documents on the iPad and take handwritten notes on it.

I use an iPad Pro to grade math homework for my online students. I wish they all had iPad Pros (or Surface Pros) but I can’t force them to buy an iPad for one class. It would be nice if the college required their usage but there aren’t enough compelling reasons to do so at this time. I’m skeptical that there will be enough after Tuesday’s event.

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

#3
My kids have now had both iPads and Chromebooks, and the Chromebooks were obvious winners in every single way. The teachers and kids both like them, they're clearly better for actual school work and learning, everything is just better. It's just a nice bonus that they're way cheaper.

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

#4
post #2

With budget constraints I don’t see how the iPad can compete with cheaper alternatives. The only real advantage I see for the iPad over Chromebook in the education market is that one can digitally markup documents on the iPad and take handwritten notes on it. I use an iPad Pro to grade math homework for my online students. I wish they all had iPad Pros (or Surface Pros) but I can’t force them to buy an iPad for one c…

Would you choose ipads over chromebooks for them?

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

#5

My kids have now had both iPads and Chromebooks, and the Chromebooks were obvious winners in every single way. The teachers and kids both like them, they're clearly better for actual school work and learning, everything is just better. It's just a nice bonus that they're way cheaper.

[deleted]

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

#7

My kids have now had both iPads and Chromebooks, and the Chromebooks were obvious winners in every single way. The teachers and kids both like them, they're clearly better for actual school work and learning, everything is just better. It's just a nice bonus that they're way cheaper.

I think if I were in high school today, I would today feel exactly the same as I did in 7th grade about Apple products. John Dvorak wrote an article that Apple machines were basically Cuisinarts and I thought the class was to teach me about computers. Everything was a captive garden and in 20-some years, all that has changed is that the garden is pretty.

At least with a Chromebook, there is a gate that you can open if you want. The Crouton project allows anyone to install a full OS. The best part is that if it gets broken, there is no danger or punishment. Just reset and everything is back to default and your files come back. Get good at it and then it is probably time for a real computer...

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

#8

My kids have now had both iPads and Chromebooks, and the Chromebooks were obvious winners in every single way. The teachers and kids both like them, they're clearly better for actual school work and learning, everything is just better. It's just a nice bonus that they're way cheaper.

How much cheaper are Chromebooks? Education iPads are $300, to my naive self it doesn’t seem like there is a lot of room for a decent laptop to be much cheaper.

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

#9
post #2

With budget constraints I don’t see how the iPad can compete with cheaper alternatives. The only real advantage I see for the iPad over Chromebook in the education market is that one can digitally markup documents on the iPad and take handwritten notes on it. I use an iPad Pro to grade math homework for my online students. I wish they all had iPad Pros (or Surface Pros) but I can’t force them to buy an iPad for one c…

You can do digital pen markup on any number of stylus equipped Chromebooks using any of the excellent Android or Chrome apps for note taking and markup. Check out Keep, Squid, Google Classroom for Android, MyScript. There's even a handwiring mode on the soft keyboard that comes up if you flip them around to tablet mode.

The feature is not just on the Pixel book. It's also in the $400 Samsung Chromebook Plus or Asus Chromebook Flip.

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

#10
post #2

With budget constraints I don’t see how the iPad can compete with cheaper alternatives. The only real advantage I see for the iPad over Chromebook in the education market is that one can digitally markup documents on the iPad and take handwritten notes on it. I use an iPad Pro to grade math homework for my online students. I wish they all had iPad Pros (or Surface Pros) but I can’t force them to buy an iPad for one c…

> The only real advantage I see for the iPad over Chromebook in the education market is that one can digitally markup documents on the iPad and take handwritten notes on it. I use an iPad Pro...

The 'regular' iPad (and presumably this cheaper iPad) do not support the Apple Pencil. There are Chromebooks with wacom pen support e.g. Samsung's Chromebook Plus/Pro [1]. Those Chromebooks start at $499. The iPad Pro starts at $649 (+$100 for the Apple Pencil).

[1] https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/chromebooks/all-chromeb...

Post reply on HN