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New York Is Confiscating Delivery Bikes, Hurting Immigrants, And Helping No One

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Re: New York Is Confiscating Delivery Bikes, Hurting Immigrants, And Helping No One

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Those electric bikes are a nightmare. They are so quiet you can't hear them coming. Coupled with how recklessly the delivery guys ride them it's a recipe for disaster. These guys plow through red lights and gun it in the opposite direction on one way streets. Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if these guys didn't ride like assholes.

Re: New York Is Confiscating Delivery Bikes, Hurting Immigrants, And Helping No One

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post #3

Those electric bikes are a nightmare. They are so quiet you can't hear them coming. Coupled with how recklessly the delivery guys ride them it's a recipe for disaster. These guys plow through red lights and gun it in the opposite direction on one way streets. Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if these guys didn't ride like assholes.

So they should ticket dangerous riders, not ban e-bikes outright.

Re: New York Is Confiscating Delivery Bikes, Hurting Immigrants, And Helping No One

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post #3

Those electric bikes are a nightmare. They are so quiet you can't hear them coming. Coupled with how recklessly the delivery guys ride them it's a recipe for disaster. These guys plow through red lights and gun it in the opposite direction on one way streets. Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if these guys didn't ride like assholes.

Many drivers are reckless and break laws consistently. They also often don't share the road with bikes very well. We don't ban them.

Re: New York Is Confiscating Delivery Bikes, Hurting Immigrants, And Helping No One

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post #3

Those electric bikes are a nightmare. They are so quiet you can't hear them coming. Coupled with how recklessly the delivery guys ride them it's a recipe for disaster. These guys plow through red lights and gun it in the opposite direction on one way streets. Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if these guys didn't ride like assholes.

How many people have they killed this year?

Just two days Dorothy Bruns in Park Slope ran through a red light, killed a four year old and a one year old. A pregnant woman is still in critical condition. She hasn't been arrested.

Maybe the NYPD should concentrate on felonies before worrying about violations.

Re: New York Is Confiscating Delivery Bikes, Hurting Immigrants, And Helping No One

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"..calling them a public threat because their riders exceed speed limits and disobey traffic laws by riding the wrong way on streets and on sidewalks. This reasoning is faulty: Do Lee, a researcher at CUNY Graduate Center and organizer with The Biking Public Project, which works to amplify the voices of underrepresented cyclists like delivery workers, tells Fast Company he has found no evidence in his research that e-bikes have ever killed anyone.."

The reasoning contained in this excerpt is faulty, and it's so glaring I'm surprised the editor let it through - hasn't killed anyone yet is a public threat!

Re: New York Is Confiscating Delivery Bikes, Hurting Immigrants, And Helping No One

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post #3

Those electric bikes are a nightmare. They are so quiet you can't hear them coming. Coupled with how recklessly the delivery guys ride them it's a recipe for disaster. These guys plow through red lights and gun it in the opposite direction on one way streets. Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if these guys didn't ride like assholes.

How many people have they killed this year? Just two days Dorothy Bruns in Park Slope ran through a red light, killed a four year old and a one year old. A pregnant woman is still in critical condition. She hasn't been arrested. Maybe the NYPD should concentrate on felonies before worrying about violations.

The “how many people have been killed” is a really poor test of if something is right or wrong.

Re: New York Is Confiscating Delivery Bikes, Hurting Immigrants, And Helping No One

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post #3

Those electric bikes are a nightmare. They are so quiet you can't hear them coming. Coupled with how recklessly the delivery guys ride them it's a recipe for disaster. These guys plow through red lights and gun it in the opposite direction on one way streets. Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if these guys didn't ride like assholes.

We don't ban cars. Yet most drivers break laws daily, whether it be failure to signal, exceeding the posted speed limit, or blocking a crosswalk or intersection. No one talks about banning cars outright, even though they kill far more innocent bystanders. If there are dangerous ebike operators they should be ticketed and fined.

In a world with global warming where many cities stated goal is to reduce vehicle miles traveled, it doesn't make sense to ban a valid mode of transportation.

Re: New York Is Confiscating Delivery Bikes, Hurting Immigrants, And Helping No One

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people have they killed this year? Just two days Dorothy Bruns in Park Slope ran through a red light, killed a four year old and a one year old. A pregnant woman is still in critical condition. She hasn't been arrested. Maybe the NYPD should concentrate on felonies before worrying about violations.

The “how many people have been killed” is a really poor test of if something is right or wrong.

"They startled me" is a bad reason to think something is unsafe. I'd wager if you saturated the streets of any American city with "rude" ebike riders, the serious injury rate would go down pretty quickly, as drivers learned to accept humans in the street.
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