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Crazy new Swedish bill makes sharing music and TV as bad a “crime” as manslaughter

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Re: Crazy new Swedish bill makes sharing music and TV as bad a “crime” as manslaughter

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Attempts at this type of legislation make me almost irrationally angry.

This is a quote from the article that the PIA post linked to (translated from Swedish by Google so wording may be slightly off):

"Today there is an organized online piracy that has major consequences for the whole community. Therefore, it is good that the punishment crimes for these crimes have been overlooked as the sanction is proportional to the seriousness of the crime"

I just fail to understand how someone causing a multi-million/billion dollar media corporation to lose some money is a crime so serious that that person should be imprisoned for up to six years.

Re: Crazy new Swedish bill makes sharing music and TV as bad a “crime” as manslaughter

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I'm not surprised when I see on swedish news how a pedophile gets 3-4 years for molesting hundreds of children and a bank robber gets 5-8 years for not hurting a single person but stealing millions.

It's a long standing dark gag here that financial crime is being treated much worse than violent crime.

Re: Crazy new Swedish bill makes sharing music and TV as bad a “crime” as manslaughter

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post #4

I'm not surprised when I see on swedish news how a pedophile gets 3-4 years for molesting hundreds of children and a bank robber gets 5-8 years for not hurting a single person but stealing millions. It's a long standing dark gag here that financial crime is being treated much worse than violent crime.

Are you sure using bank robbery is a good example here? Some real financial crime like embezzlement would make more sense.

Re: Crazy new Swedish bill makes sharing music and TV as bad a “crime” as manslaughter

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post #3

Attempts at this type of legislation make me almost irrationally angry. This is a quote from the article that the PIA post linked to (translated from Swedish by Google so wording may be slightly off): "Today there is an organized online piracy that has major consequences for the whole community. Therefore, it is good that the punishment crimes for these crimes have been overlooked as the sanction is proportional to t…

Imagine- you leave a USB-Stick lying on somebodys desk- that USB-Stick contains pirated software.

The person picks up that USB-Stick and keeps that USB-Stick- and just for this - setup you are clearly in the right to get him in for half a century.

Also, does this mean that you can get GPL-Infringers for six years sentenced?

I wonder if those taking the Lobbsters money here think there creation so ridiculous that it be repealed in an instant.

Re: Crazy new Swedish bill makes sharing music and TV as bad a “crime” as manslaughter

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post #4

I'm not surprised when I see on swedish news how a pedophile gets 3-4 years for molesting hundreds of children and a bank robber gets 5-8 years for not hurting a single person but stealing millions. It's a long standing dark gag here that financial crime is being treated much worse than violent crime.

Which pedophile case are you thinking about and when was the last time Sweden had a bank robbery?

Re: Crazy new Swedish bill makes sharing music and TV as bad a “crime” as manslaughter

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post #4

I'm not surprised when I see on swedish news how a pedophile gets 3-4 years for molesting hundreds of children and a bank robber gets 5-8 years for not hurting a single person but stealing millions. It's a long standing dark gag here that financial crime is being treated much worse than violent crime.

Which pedophile case are you thinking about and when was the last time Sweden had a bank robbery?

I used the phrase bank robber but what I meant was värdedepårån. Semantics, the point is that financial crime is often treated worse than violent crime.

Our whole society is cashless and one of the official reasons are to prevent robberies. But we haven't changed sentences for pedophiles.

Pick a case. I just googled "dömd pedofil" and found several cases of them being convicted to 2-4 years prison for molestation and rape.

And they get psychological care very often.

There's one in Falkenberg that raped 3 girls for several years and he received a sentence of 9 years, which is 1 year longer than a famous unarmed cash robbery performed in Sweden.

Even when they get relatively harsh sentences it doesn't seem enough to me.

Re: Crazy new Swedish bill makes sharing music and TV as bad a “crime” as manslaughter

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Ever seen the movie Idiocracy? I feel like society is becoming more and more like that. Laws like these are being passed and people are too numb to care.

I'm waiting for the day we spray our crops withe Mountain Dew and can't figure out why they don't grow...

Re: Crazy new Swedish bill makes sharing music and TV as bad a “crime” as manslaughter

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post #4

I'm not surprised when I see on swedish news how a pedophile gets 3-4 years for molesting hundreds of children and a bank robber gets 5-8 years for not hurting a single person but stealing millions. It's a long standing dark gag here that financial crime is being treated much worse than violent crime.

Not sure where you are going with this. Shorter times for financial crime? Why? And what does any of this have to do with file sharing?
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