Sweden tried to drop Assange extradition in 2013

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Post by DyslexicAtheist » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 1:39 PM UTC

Sweden tried to drop Assange extradition in 2013
theguardian.com

Re: Sweden tried to drop Assange extradition in 2013

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Post by slivym » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 2:27 PM UTC

Everyone is owed due process to some extent. But in this case, are we really bothered about a guy who isn't in the UK, has broken UK bail conditions, and is quite likely to have actively participated in attacks against some of the UK's closest allies.

I think he should go round to his local lawyer and ask about taking the UK police to court. He deserves to see stand in that court room and hear them answer for why this happened.

He doesn't seem to want to though... He just seems to want to moan on twitter without leaving his home...

Re: Sweden tried to drop Assange extradition in 2013

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Post by Retric » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 2:34 PM UTC

slivym wrote: post #2

Everyone is owed due process to some extent. But in this case, are we really bothered about a guy who isn't in the UK, has broken UK bail conditions, and is quite likely to have actively participated in attacks against some of the UK's closest allies. I think he should go round to his local lawyer and ask about taking the UK police to court. He deserves to see stand in that court room and hear them answer for why thi…

As an activist the goal is often to create noise rather than to avoid prison. People don't want to portray him in that light as it elevates his position and might not be accurate.

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Post by randcraw » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 2:37 PM UTC

The persistence of the British CPS in pursuing Assange shows how tight the militaries are between the US and Commonwealth nations. AFAIK, Britain had no personal stake in Wikileaks / Assange. But because America badly wanted to suppress Wikileaks and its ilk from future revelations, Britain has persisted in its surrogate prosecution of Assange.

I wonder, is there no blowback among Brits for the Crown so baldly adopting the role of America's attack dog? Or is that de rigueur now?

Re: Sweden tried to drop Assange extradition in 2013

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Post by elif » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 2:37 PM UTC

slivym wrote: post #2

Everyone is owed due process to some extent. But in this case, are we really bothered about a guy who isn't in the UK, has broken UK bail conditions, and is quite likely to have actively participated in attacks against some of the UK's closest allies. I think he should go round to his local lawyer and ask about taking the UK police to court. He deserves to see stand in that court room and hear them answer for why thi…

Which publication do you consider an attack?

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Post by callesgg » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 2:38 PM UTC

I don't like when things that are clearly not nation state issues is written about as if it was nation state issues.

Re: Sweden tried to drop Assange extradition in 2013

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Post by barking » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 2:41 PM UTC

I'd like the press to shine a light on the lawyer who was so keen to get Sweden to pursue the case. I'm sure he prefers being nameless.

Re: Sweden tried to drop Assange extradition in 2013

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Post by jvehent » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 2:42 PM UTC

This is much more complex than a lone hacker being persecuted by an oppressive US government. There is suspicion that Wikileaks is one arm of Russian propaganda, and while I do not know if this is true or not, it does turn the entire Assange story into an intricate mess of international politics and power plays.

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Post by sschueller » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 2:42 PM UTC

slivym wrote: post #2

Everyone is owed due process to some extent. But in this case, are we really bothered about a guy who isn't in the UK, has broken UK bail conditions, and is quite likely to have actively participated in attacks against some of the UK's closest allies. I think he should go round to his local lawyer and ask about taking the UK police to court. He deserves to see stand in that court room and hear them answer for why thi…

Stop spreading FUD. Wikileaks has not actively participated in any attacks.

Wikileaks has exposed some of the most horrific crimes committed by the Unites States and others yet we are still trying to kill the messenger.

Re: Sweden tried to drop Assange extradition in 2013

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Post by saiya-jin » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 2:43 PM UTC

randcraw wrote: post #4

The persistence of the British CPS in pursuing Assange shows how tight the militaries are between the US and Commonwealth nations. AFAIK, Britain had no personal stake in Wikileaks / Assange. But because America badly wanted to suppress Wikileaks and its ilk from future revelations, Britain has persisted in its surrogate prosecution of Assange. I wonder, is there no blowback among Brits for the Crown so baldly adopti…

Is this surprising at all? I recall when Bush jr told those fairy tales about Iraq WMD in UN, everybody stared in disbelief how badly he/they tried to desperately create a pretext for a massive invasion/declaring a war to a sovereign nation without any solid reason. I recall well how Germans and French who opposed were openly mocked by US politicians and media (french fries -> freedom fries, anybody?).

UK was the only nation who stood by US in this joke of a politics without questions, and were very happy to begin invasion along US. I mean come on, that's not more than 15 years ago and was well covered by all major media.