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TDLib – Build Your Own Telegram Client

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Post by TiredOfLife » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 10:14 AM UTC

TDLib – Build Your Own Telegram Client
telegram.org

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Post by rplnt » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 10:38 AM UTC

> P.S. Today, we're also introducing Telegram X for Android, a new official app.

What is wrong with the current app? Or was that not official? I find it better than the Facebook Messenger (light or not) and it's definitely much better than the Hangouts app from Google.

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Post by Shourai » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 10:42 AM UTC

The iOS version of Telegram and Telegram X are currently not available in the Appstore.

It should be resolved soon: https://twitter.com/durov/status/958990254396059648

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Post by chrisper » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 10:43 AM UTC

Title is misleading, I think. You can only build your own client.

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 10:44 AM UTC

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Post by MildlySerious » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 10:47 AM UTC

rplnt wrote: post #2

> P.S. Today, we're also introducing Telegram X for Android, a new official app. What is wrong with the current app? Or was that not official? I find it better than the Facebook Messenger (light or not) and it's definitely much better than the Hangouts app from Google.

In the linked article in the quote it sounds like it's basically the same concept as Firefox Nightly. New and experimental features that may or may not make it into the other app. It's not meant to replace the old app right now, but it might do so in the future.

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Post by rmuratov » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 10:48 AM UTC

rplnt wrote: post #2

> P.S. Today, we're also introducing Telegram X for Android, a new official app. What is wrong with the current app? Or was that not official? I find it better than the Facebook Messenger (light or not) and it's definitely much better than the Hangouts app from Google.

As they state that's because of lack of innovations among competitors. So they now compete internally.

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Post by lozenge » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 10:50 AM UTC

Telegram has a poor security record, with homegrown encryption algorithms and no end to end encryption by default.

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Post by lloeki » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 10:51 AM UTC

rplnt wrote: post #2

> P.S. Today, we're also introducing Telegram X for Android, a new official app. What is wrong with the current app? Or was that not official? I find it better than the Facebook Messenger (light or not) and it's definitely much better than the Hangouts app from Google.

They have had two apps (Telegram vs Telegram Desktop) on macOS too for a while. IIRC one is Electron-ish-based and the other is native Cocoa. The first one got features slightly faster but lacked Secret Chats IIRC.

Re: TDLib – Build Your Own Telegram Client

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Post by lloeki » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 11:02 AM UTC

lozenge wrote: post #8

Telegram has a poor security record, with homegrown encryption algorithms and no end to end encryption by default.

While I am wary of "build-your-own-crypto", saying it has a poor security record is, to my knowledge so far, incorrect. I have yet to see satisfactory cryptanalysis that shows a weakness (theoretical or real) in the protocol. If anything, it seems to withstand scrutiny so far. Even the dedicated security.se.com question[0] seems like it wraps itself in tautologies.

Until then, throwing the "homegrown encryption" argument to argue for Telegram's weakness is hand-waving and a straw man.

Telegram's security is sufficient for the threat model I have to face against now and in the future.

[0]: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/49782/is-telegr...