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Why American men are getting less marriageable

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Re: Why American men are getting less marriageable

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I think the job/economy weights much less then the fact that marriage gives absolutely zero benefits for men in western society and implies a lot of risks.

The article implies these men aren't even getting to the stage where they can make the decision on whether it's beneficial.

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I think the job/economy weights much less then the fact that marriage gives absolutely zero benefits for men in western society and implies a lot of risks.

AFAIK marriage does give enormous significant breaks in most western societies.

with enormous liabilities - http://www.realworlddivorce.com/

Re: Why American men are getting less marriageable

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post #4

I think the job/economy weights much less then the fact that marriage gives absolutely zero benefits for men in western society and implies a lot of risks.

AFAIK marriage does give enormous significant breaks in most western societies.

If you are referring to tax incentives, then in the US it depends on the variance in income and children:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/16/upshot/marria...

High income couples are actually penalized, and even worse off once they have a child!

Re: Why American men are getting less marriageable

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post #4

I think the job/economy weights much less then the fact that marriage gives absolutely zero benefits for men in western society and implies a lot of risks.

AFAIK marriage does give enormous significant breaks in most western societies.

Until the divorce, then men get wrecked financially most of the time, losing houses, half the money, forced to pay alimony.

Re: Why American men are getting less marriageable

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post #4

I think the job/economy weights much less then the fact that marriage gives absolutely zero benefits for men in western society and implies a lot of risks.

AFAIK marriage does give enormous significant breaks in most western societies.

Does it? I'm about to get married in the UK and I cannot name a single break that we will get while married. I think you can transfer some of your tax-free allowance to your spouse, but only if one of you makes less than 10k/year, so with both of us working there is no benefit here.

It's slightly easier to get a large loan or mortgage as a married couple, but it's not exactly impossible if you just live together as partners.

The way I see it, it's an absolutely enormous expense with almost zero financial/economical benefit for us. I love my partner and want to get married because I think that's the right thing to do, but if I looked at it outside of the "romantic/traditional" angle, there is absolutely no reason to get married.

Re: Why American men are getting less marriageable

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Looking at people I know and people I've dated, employability seems like the least interesting thing to women.

Perhaps you and your friends group fall out of the majority? But I do know there is a certain pressure from parents and personal ideals when it comes to money that are still very present when it comes to dating or choosing a partner. Even if it's only subconscious...

Most of my friends and relatives (NL) don't even get married, but rather have a partnership agreement that is pretty much the same status as married but less hard to unbind or set up.

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