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I can tell you that the tactics used by so called justice seekers are exactly the same we had in my dear soviet union. I don't know where it is heading but because America decides the course if the western civilization, I feel uncomfortable.

Peterson is doing great work. I hope he can handle the pressure.

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I watched this interview the other day. It was infuriating. I mean, you expect today's journalists to be provocative, sure. But this interviewer relentlessly, and in the most hostile manner, misrepresented Peterson, put words in his mouth, and made sideways accusations. I don't know who she is, but if she's supposed to be any kind of serious journalist at all, she deserves to be called out for this.

Most striking to me was that her tone, body-language, and words all seemed to broadcast this message: "To those at home, my guest is a villain. We all know it. I'm going to get to the bottom of this, get him to confess his crimes, and maybe get some insight into the mind of a bad person."

Again, I don't know anything about this interviewer or Britain's channel 4, so I don't know if this sort of thing is just their standard format.

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Direct link to the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

This interview really demonstrates the style of argumentation you see around these topics, just dialed up to 11.

Practitioners of this form of argument intentionally mis-represent the other side to form a strawman argument. This works exceptionally well on Twitter, where someone quote-tweets their adversary, intentionally warping their words with the intention to shame. Some people have called this tactic "dunking on" their opponent.

Those tactics work very poorly in this 1-to-1 format, in part because of the longform nature, but mostly because one can't instantly appeal to an outside audience for likes/retweets.

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Direct link to the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

The interviewer is either extremely confused about her own ideology or being deliberately standoffish by invoking strawman after strawman.

She seems to think certain groups of people are entitled to success they haven't earned, because there is some nefarious and ill-defined force oppressing them.

Peterson handled it well and made some great points about the roles of competence, sacrifice and disagreeableness in work success.

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This post is rocketing down the list. It was number 1 just 10 minutes or so ago, then it went to 6, now it's 36.

Is that normal or is this post being moderated or brigaded?

edit: And now it's gone completely from the list with 74 points...

edit 2: Ok now it's back... wtf mods make up your mind about what we're allowed to see

edit 3: All the comments in this thread are getting brigaded down.

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This post is rocketing down the list. It was number 1 just 10 minutes or so ago, then it went to 6, now it's 36. Is that normal or is this post being moderated or brigaded? edit: And now it's gone completely from the list with 74 points... edit 2: Ok now it's back... wtf mods make up your mind about what we're allowed to see edit 3: All the comments in this thread are getting brigaded down.

It was also flagged for a few minutes, definitely being brigaded.

Also, my link to the interview in this thread as top level comment was initially getting downvotes, and now it's positive. I'm not sure what an honest reason could be for downvoting a link to the interview that the article is referencing.

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