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Apple: Chinese firm to operate China iCloud accounts

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Re: Apple: Chinese firm to operate China iCloud accounts

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IMHO this is sending a strong signal to people like myself who mainly use an iPhone for privacy reasons. Regardless of whether or not the data is only stored encrypted at the 3rd party, their willingness to compromise in this regard is a strong indicator for their future actions and their commitment to privacy and security.

Re: Apple: Chinese firm to operate China iCloud accounts

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post #2

IMHO this is sending a strong signal to people like myself who mainly use an iPhone for privacy reasons. Regardless of whether or not the data is only stored encrypted at the 3rd party, their willingness to compromise in this regard is a strong indicator for their future actions and their commitment to privacy and security.

While you're not wrong, this strikes me as the cost of doing business in China. For comparison, AWS and Azure both operate under local partners in China.

e: "strikes me as" == "is"; it's not really optional.

Re: Apple: Chinese firm to operate China iCloud accounts

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post #2

IMHO this is sending a strong signal to people like myself who mainly use an iPhone for privacy reasons. Regardless of whether or not the data is only stored encrypted at the 3rd party, their willingness to compromise in this regard is a strong indicator for their future actions and their commitment to privacy and security.

While you're not wrong, this strikes me as the cost of doing business in China. For comparison, AWS and Azure both operate under local partners in China. e: "strikes me as" == "is"; it's not really optional.

Because the options are either do that or exit the country unfortunately.

Re: Apple: Chinese firm to operate China iCloud accounts

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post #2

IMHO this is sending a strong signal to people like myself who mainly use an iPhone for privacy reasons. Regardless of whether or not the data is only stored encrypted at the 3rd party, their willingness to compromise in this regard is a strong indicator for their future actions and their commitment to privacy and security.

Pure speculation on my part, but could this be a way for Apple to segregate Chinese account data from the rest of their customers' data?

That would seem to limit the scope of what Chinese authorities can access.

Re: Apple: Chinese firm to operate China iCloud accounts

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IMHO this is sending a strong signal to people like myself who mainly use an iPhone for privacy reasons. Regardless of whether or not the data is only stored encrypted at the 3rd party, their willingness to compromise in this regard is a strong indicator for their future actions and their commitment to privacy and security.

What course of action would you prefer: Willingly shut down iCloud in China or have iCloud forcefully shut down in China?

Re: Apple: Chinese firm to operate China iCloud accounts

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post #2

IMHO this is sending a strong signal to people like myself who mainly use an iPhone for privacy reasons. Regardless of whether or not the data is only stored encrypted at the 3rd party, their willingness to compromise in this regard is a strong indicator for their future actions and their commitment to privacy and security.

Many countries have such limitations, not only China requires data to be stored "in the country", but also Russia. I've been in a situation, where an international product got "forked" into a daughter-company-controlled China-only product. Nothing escaped this Chinese sandbox, and nothing got into either.

Re: Apple: Chinese firm to operate China iCloud accounts

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post #2

IMHO this is sending a strong signal to people like myself who mainly use an iPhone for privacy reasons. Regardless of whether or not the data is only stored encrypted at the 3rd party, their willingness to compromise in this regard is a strong indicator for their future actions and their commitment to privacy and security.

Pure speculation on my part, but could this be a way for Apple to segregate Chinese account data from the rest of their customers' data? That would seem to limit the scope of what Chinese authorities can access.

To me it seems to be case — Chinese customers will use firewalled version of iCloud available only in one country.
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