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Re: Ask HN: 'Enterprise' hater

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An application is a software product which fulfills a useful purpose (performing a task, storing data, etc.)

An enterprise application is an application which is suitable for use in a wide variety of environments seen in companies. (for example, as a point of difference, an enterprise application might support a wider variety of platforms or data, or at greater scale than a non-enterprise application)

Re: Ask HN: 'Enterprise' hater

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post #2

An application is a software product which fulfills a useful purpose (performing a task, storing data, etc.) An enterprise application is an application which is suitable for use in a wide variety of environments seen in companies. (for example, as a point of difference, an enterprise application might support a wider variety of platforms or data, or at greater scale than a non-enterprise application)

Thanks d4rt.

What about collection of different applications which is inter-dependent with each other. Each application must be communicable and extensible with less pain. That's what in my mind for enterprise right now..

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"One size fits no-one" software

Sold by people who promise everything and deliver very little after a lot of high priced consultants customise it to what they think your requirements should be. Costs a fortune to buy and several more in 'maintenance' fees. New, incompatible version, is released a month after you go live.

Re: Ask HN: 'Enterprise' hater

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I worked 5y at an Enterprise Search vendor. For us there, Enterprise application was:

* to be used "within" a large org or corporations (vs web facing apps)

* which deployment/usage is through the overall organization (not just departmental (=specialized app) this is why often the 2 types of license sold were "corporate or Enterprise license" with 1 important parameter: the number of employees (per seats) of the corp

* Most of the time, installed within the firewall on the corps own servers (vs cloud)

* if modern architecture the app to be deployed globally should have "connectors"/connectivity so that it can communicate with other pre existing systems

* very often deployed by system integrators or at 3 to 4 x the price by the engineers of the Enterprise App vendor

Re: Ask HN: 'Enterprise' hater

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A large application trying to do many things at once. Has a very long sales cycle and is expensive. It requires sales and marketing effort teams to get sales. Support services offered because it is a pain to install and/or run.

Re: Ask HN: 'Enterprise' hater

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post #3
post #2

An application is a software product which fulfills a useful purpose (performing a task, storing data, etc.) An enterprise application is an application which is suitable for use in a wide variety of environments seen in companies. (for example, as a point of difference, an enterprise application might support a wider variety of platforms or data, or at greater scale than a non-enterprise application)

Thanks d4rt. What about collection of different applications which is inter-dependent with each other. Each application must be communicable and extensible with less pain. That's what in my mind for enterprise right now..

Enterprise extensibility and inter-operativity or inter-dependency is extremely complex to get right.

Multiple standards exist for just about anything, and most implementations of something are broken in one way or another. I've seen obvious and subtle breakage in things that ought to be simple: * timestamps (not unambigious, not including timezone data) * mac addresses (within SNMP, in a variety of formats in different places on the same kit) * integration with LDAP (group membership only looking at primary membership) * etc.

We live in hope. Postel's Law applies.

Re: Ask HN: 'Enterprise' hater

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I'll add that selection is often the result of a top-down decision, with an attendant disconnect between the needs and interests at the top as compared to those in the trenches. The greater the separation of those mindsets, the worse the result, speaking generally.
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