An ARM killer from IIT-M?
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An ARM killer from IIT-M?
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Re: An ARM killer from IIT-M?
#2ARM can’t be killed at this s point. Positioning themselves as ARM killer would not be the wisest move on anyone’s part.
Re: An ARM killer from IIT-M?
#3ARM can’t be killed at this s point. Positioning themselves as ARM killer would not be the wisest move on anyone’s part.
I think there's a "law" that goes something like "if there's a question in the title, the answer is no"
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#4ARM can’t be killed at this s point. Positioning themselves as ARM killer would not be the wisest move on anyone’s part.
One way to dethrone the competition might be to focus on openness:
There are also security reasons for wanting to make a processor for India. “We don’t know really whether the processor we are getting from outside is trustworthy. Is it secure?” asks Kamakoti. “Suppose I want variants of a processor, for different needs – not just strategic, even civilian needs – I have to basically rely on the processor available to me, and fit my application to that. It is something like I bought the slipper and I am cutting my feet to fit into it.”
Re: An ARM killer from IIT-M?
#5ARM can’t be killed at this s point. Positioning themselves as ARM killer would not be the wisest move on anyone’s part.
I think there's a "law" that goes something like "if there's a question in the title, the answer is no"
Betteridge's Law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headline...
Re: An ARM killer from IIT-M?
#6Glad to hear that they'll be taping out one of the Shakti chips so soon. Can't wait to see what comes of the higher-end server (or workstation, if you're me) chips.
That said...
> “The capitalist computing bourgeoisie want to enslave us all with proprietary processing architectures, but the proletariat eventually produces its own processor alternative – an ISA for and by the people, where instruction sets aren’t subject to the whim of the royalty-driven class, and where licensing fees don’t oppress the workers’ BOMs (bill of materials),” writes Kevin Morris in the Electronics Engineering journal, lending colour and gravitas to what’s at stake in the processor industry.
Comparing RISC-V to communism is pretty grody. RISC-V is precisely a capitalist revolution, shedding a layer of state protection of the ISA from the market, and unleashing the greed, passion, and proprietary zeal of the world on the task of bringing designs to market.
Re: An ARM killer from IIT-M?
#7ARM can’t be killed at this s point. Positioning themselves as ARM killer would not be the wisest move on anyone’s part.
One way to dethrone the competition might be to focus on openness: There are also security reasons for wanting to make a processor for India. “We don’t know really whether the processor we are getting from outside is trustworthy. Is it secure?” asks Kamakoti. “Suppose I want variants of a processor, for different needs – not just strategic, even civilian needs – I have to basically rely on the processor available to…
But in the case of ARM, you _do_ know, if you manufacture it yourself. ARM licenses intellectual property, not sells chips. Once you buy a license, you can inspect it and make sure it doesn’t have the bits you don’t like.
Re: An ARM killer from IIT-M?
#8Glad to hear that they'll be taping out one of the Shakti chips so soon. Can't wait to see what comes of the higher-end server (or workstation, if you're me) chips. That said... > “The capitalist computing bourgeoisie want to enslave us all with proprietary processing architectures, but the proletariat eventually produces its own processor alternative – an ISA for and by the people, where instruction sets aren’t subj…
RISC-V was developed by the state, in particular, by UC Berkeley, a public school. And IIT Madras is also another public school. So again, a branch of the Indian state is developing this Shakti processor.
There's really nothing capitalist about this at all.
Re: An ARM killer from IIT-M?
#9These guys will have to drop out and start a funded company if they want this tech to go anywhere. I don't expect IIT-M to be able to manufacture and sell the finished design.
Re: An ARM killer from IIT-M?
#10Glad to see open source catching up to pro proprietary in this space.
I’m assuming all their code is in this repo: https://bitbucket.org/casl/