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Reddit Bans Nazi Groups and Others in Crackdown on Violent Content

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Re: Reddit Bans Nazi Groups and Others in Crackdown on Violent Content

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There goes /r/The_Donald/

No, they're still there, and no, everyone who disagrees with you isn't a Nazi.

> we will take action against any content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual or a group of people

This also means that people who encourage you to "punch a Nazi" or that there's nothing wrong with punching a Nazi/racist should also be banned.

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There goes /r/The_Donald/

No, they're still there, and no, everyone who disagrees with you isn't a Nazi. > we will take action against any content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual or a group of people This also means that people who encourage you to "punch a Nazi" or that there's nothing wrong with punching a Nazi/racist should also be banned.

That place promotes violence and hate on a daily basis.

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It's really, really not easy to stand up for the rights of Nazis. If you're a Nazi, you can use voat.co as they are very free speech oriented. You don't have to be a Nazi to participate, but it's a good idea to have a thick skin if you do go there.

I go there and talk to the White Nationalists. They are pretty much Nazis. They know I'm not white and that I don't agree with them. They don't scare me. They are scared and powerless, looking for meaning in their empty lives, easily swayed, and not entirely unaware of some of the ironies.

I've actually invited a few of them to my home, but no takers so far.

Point is, I'm not sure banning does any good. Reddit can legally do so. I still think there's a better way to deal with the mentally ill and disenfranchised.

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Hmm. This is going to be interesting. I mean, nearly everyone should be fine with banning Nazis. After all, they're vile and in my opinion don't deserve any place on the world except the inside of a jail cell...

The problem is: where will the line be drawn? What about Black Lives Matter? The more, uh, militant parts of the Antifa movement? Militant animal rights groups (which actually are treated as domestic terrorist groups in some countries!)? All advocate, tolerate or embrace violence in some degree, and as there has been the precedent case of Nazis getting banned, it's going to be difficult.

Of course one can say "we simply don't like Nazis, so we're stricter on them", and I'm fine with that, but I'm not sure if a new (or, for what it's worth, also current government) can't more or less force providers like Reddit (but also Cloudflare and the others who booted Daily Stormer off the net) to revive the "good old Red Scare"...

edit: to clarify, for BLM I don't mean that BLM promotes violence - but there are certainly supporters who believe violence or, in one case, murdering cops, being legitimate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police...). I don't like it myself that the right wing was able to frame BLM as "taking part in the murder", but that image is not going to be corrected soon.

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It's really, really not easy to stand up for the rights of Nazis. If you're a Nazi, you can use voat.co as they are very free speech oriented. You don't have to be a Nazi to participate, but it's a good idea to have a thick skin if you do go there. I go there and talk to the White Nationalists. They are pretty much Nazis. They know I'm not white and that I don't agree with them. They don't scare me. They are scared a…

They didn't ban all Nazis. They banned subreddits that posted content (not comments) advocating violence. That included one or two "nazi" subreddits. The article says this in the first paragraph.

That said, thanks for trying to find positive ways to deal with things.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they're still there, and no, everyone who disagrees with you isn't a Nazi. > we will take action against any content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual or a group of people This also means that people who encourage you to "punch a Nazi" or that there's nothing wrong with punching a Nazi/racist should also be banned.

That place promotes violence and hate on a daily basis.

If by hate you mean people with dissenting opinions.
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