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Tech Firms Seek Washington’s Prized Asset: Top-Secret Clearances

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Article is wrong if you had clearance you don't get to transfer it if you move to a civilian job is my understanding.

So is there an equivalent to List X companies in the USA who are allowed put staff through clearance.

And for TS clearance I doubt that any dual national other than those because of birth circumstances will be getting clearance any time soon which sucks for SV company employees who are immigrants

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Article is wrong if you had clearance you don't get to transfer it if you move to a civilian job is my understanding. So is there an equivalent to List X companies in the USA who are allowed put staff through clearance. And for TS clearance I doubt that any dual national other than those because of birth circumstances will be getting clearance any time soon which sucks for SV company employees who are immigrants

Why would the US give a Top Secret clearance to an immigrant?

edit - You can't immigrate to a country then expect to receive a Top Secret clearance regardless if it is the US or any other country. I don't suspect Russia will give me a clearance if I were to immigrate and find employment at a tech company. There would be a major national security incident waiting to happen.

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Article is wrong if you had clearance you don't get to transfer it if you move to a civilian job is my understanding. So is there an equivalent to List X companies in the USA who are allowed put staff through clearance. And for TS clearance I doubt that any dual national other than those because of birth circumstances will be getting clearance any time soon which sucks for SV company employees who are immigrants

Why would the US give a Top Secret clearance to an immigrant? edit - You can't immigrate to a country then expect to receive a Top Secret clearance regardless if it is the US or any other country. I don't suspect Russia will give me a clearance if I were to immigrate and find employment at a tech company. There would be a major national security incident waiting to happen.

https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/c10977.htm#2

2. Do you have to be a U.S. citizen to receive a security clearance from the State Department?

As outlined in Executive Order 12968, Access to Classified Information, eligibility for access to classified information may only be granted to employees who are United States citizens. However, an exception is allowed in specific situations wherein there are compelling reasons for limited access to be granted to an immigrant alien or foreign national employee who possess a special expertise that is needed for specific programs, projects, contracts, licenses, certificates, or grants.

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Why would the US give a Top Secret clearance to an immigrant? edit - You can't immigrate to a country then expect to receive a Top Secret clearance regardless if it is the US or any other country. I don't suspect Russia will give me a clearance if I were to immigrate and find employment at a tech company. There would be a major national security incident waiting to happen.

https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/c10977.htm#2 2. Do you have to be a U.S. citizen to receive a security clearance from the State Department? As outlined in Executive Order 12968, Access to Classified Information, eligibility for access to classified information may only be granted to employees who are United States citizens. However, an exception is allowed in specific situations wherein there are compelling rea…

That is from the State Department. There are an array of different clearances.

http://www.dss.mil/psmo-i/ps_faqs.html#5

5. Are non-U.S. citizens eligible for a personnel security clearance? No. However, under rare circumstances, a non-U.S. citizen may be issued a Limited Access Authorization for access to classified information. Specific criteria and limitations are provided in the NISPOM. You may also contact your IS Rep for additional information.

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Article is wrong if you had clearance you don't get to transfer it if you move to a civilian job is my understanding. So is there an equivalent to List X companies in the USA who are allowed put staff through clearance. And for TS clearance I doubt that any dual national other than those because of birth circumstances will be getting clearance any time soon which sucks for SV company employees who are immigrants

You are mistaken. Security clearances go with the person and not the job. Indeed, there’s an entire industry available to people with the correct clearance. Yeah, there's paperwork to do when you move to a new job.

https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/c10977.htm#9

https://www.clearancejobs.com/

For example, Edward Snowden had a clearance and worked for a private company, Booz Allen after first working for the NSA as a security guard then the CIA.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/c10977.htm#2 2. Do you have to be a U.S. citizen to receive a security clearance from the State Department? As outlined in Executive Order 12968, Access to Classified Information, eligibility for access to classified information may only be granted to employees who are United States citizens. However, an exception is allowed in specific situations wherein there are compelling rea…

That is from the State Department. There are an array of different clearances. http://www.dss.mil/psmo-i/ps_faqs.html#5 5. Are non-U.S. citizens eligible for a personnel security clearance? No. However, under rare circumstances, a non-U.S. citizen may be issued a Limited Access Authorization for access to classified information. Specific criteria and limitations are provided in the NISPOM. You may also contact your I…

I don't really know the details. I just know my ex husband was career military and he once kind of hand waved off the importance of some security clearance label in, probably, some TV show with the factoid that basically, if you are in the military at all, you have some level of security clearance.

I don't know the nomenclature. I don't know if "Top Secret" is really super duper special or if that is, like, anyone above the rank of E-1. But I also know that, for example, one path to citizenship in the US is to serve in the military. So, if all members of the military have some degree of clearance and some are not citizens, then 1+1=2, I think.

But I googled to find a reliable source rather than give that anecdotal evidence. FWIW.

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Article is wrong if you had clearance you don't get to transfer it if you move to a civilian job is my understanding. So is there an equivalent to List X companies in the USA who are allowed put staff through clearance. And for TS clearance I doubt that any dual national other than those because of birth circumstances will be getting clearance any time soon which sucks for SV company employees who are immigrants

You are mistaken. Security clearances go with the person and not the job. Indeed, there’s an entire industry available to people with the correct clearance. Yeah, there's paperwork to do when you move to a new job. https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/c10977.htm#9 https://www.clearancejobs.com/ For example, Edward Snowden had a clearance and worked for a private company, Booz Allen after first working for the NSA as…

That not how I read it you can transfer it to another federal job and a restricted set of civilian jobs It requires:

"an industrial or commercial contractor, licensee, certificate holder, or grantee of an agency, including all subcontractors; a personal services contractor; or any other category of person who acts for or on behalf of an agency as determined by the appropriate agency head."

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/c10977.htm#2 2. Do you have to be a U.S. citizen to receive a security clearance from the State Department? As outlined in Executive Order 12968, Access to Classified Information, eligibility for access to classified information may only be granted to employees who are United States citizens. However, an exception is allowed in specific situations wherein there are compelling rea…

That is from the State Department. There are an array of different clearances. http://www.dss.mil/psmo-i/ps_faqs.html#5 5. Are non-U.S. citizens eligible for a personnel security clearance? No. However, under rare circumstances, a non-U.S. citizen may be issued a Limited Access Authorization for access to classified information. Specific criteria and limitations are provided in the NISPOM. You may also contact your I…

The first comment in the thread talks about dual nationals, presumably people who are naturalized US citizens.

Do you mean to apply everything you are saying to naturalized citizens?

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Article is wrong if you had clearance you don't get to transfer it if you move to a civilian job is my understanding. So is there an equivalent to List X companies in the USA who are allowed put staff through clearance. And for TS clearance I doubt that any dual national other than those because of birth circumstances will be getting clearance any time soon which sucks for SV company employees who are immigrants

You are mistaken. Security clearances go with the person and not the job. Indeed, there’s an entire industry available to people with the correct clearance. Yeah, there's paperwork to do when you move to a new job. https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/c10977.htm#9 https://www.clearancejobs.com/ For example, Edward Snowden had a clearance and worked for a private company, Booz Allen after first working for the NSA as…

Security clearance does not stay with the person once they leave the job unless their new employer is (or is sponsored by) the same granting agency (i.e. DOD or DOE) and even then there is paperwork involved to set up the transfer.
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