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Unselfish People Are More Likely to Wind Up with Depression

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Re: Unselfish People Are More Likely to Wind Up with Depression

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The point here seems to be that unselfish people are more empathetic to the plight of others. while I don't disagree I wonder if unselfishness leads people into situations where they work towards others benefit (people they perceive as being treated unfairly) at their own detriment also possibly leading to issues with depression. That's the point I presumed the article would make before I read it.

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The point here seems to be that unselfish people are more empathetic to the plight of others. while I don't disagree I wonder if unselfishness leads people into situations where they work towards others benefit (people they perceive as being treated unfairly) at their own detriment also possibly leading to issues with depression. That's the point I presumed the article would make before I read it.

It can. There is also the issue of being awash in selfish dickheads that have a tendency to turn even the most straightforward attempts to help others into a dumpster fire.

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The point here seems to be that unselfish people are more empathetic to the plight of others. while I don't disagree I wonder if unselfishness leads people into situations where they work towards others benefit (people they perceive as being treated unfairly) at their own detriment also possibly leading to issues with depression. That's the point I presumed the article would make before I read it.

I agree. Roughly, the less effort you put into being happy, the less likely you will be. And a tendency to put effort into yourself seems like it would be correlated with being selfish.

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The point here seems to be that unselfish people are more empathetic to the plight of others. while I don't disagree I wonder if unselfishness leads people into situations where they work towards others benefit (people they perceive as being treated unfairly) at their own detriment also possibly leading to issues with depression. That's the point I presumed the article would make before I read it.

It can. There is also the issue of being awash in selfish dickheads that have a tendency to turn even the most straightforward attempts to help others into a dumpster fire.

It sounds like the "unselfish" person in this scenario would be dealing with the negative form of pride (self-pity).

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The point here seems to be that unselfish people are more empathetic to the plight of others. while I don't disagree I wonder if unselfishness leads people into situations where they work towards others benefit (people they perceive as being treated unfairly) at their own detriment also possibly leading to issues with depression. That's the point I presumed the article would make before I read it.

If we break it down into a binary comparison, there are givers and there are takers. If a giver doesn't learn early on how to handle takers, they can allow themselves to be used very easily. If a balance can be found between a giver and a taker, they can accomplish a lot together.

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The point here seems to be that unselfish people are more empathetic to the plight of others. while I don't disagree I wonder if unselfishness leads people into situations where they work towards others benefit (people they perceive as being treated unfairly) at their own detriment also possibly leading to issues with depression. That's the point I presumed the article would make before I read it.

When I see people talk about living indefinitely around here in threads that come up occasionally, it does make me wonder if they are on the other side of some selfishness cutoff. It's weird to think that you'd be interested in living for centuries or longer in a world that has seen everyone before you die and day by day sees horrific injustice. It's almost solipsistic.

The same dynamic exists with those hundred millionaire preppers. It's very peculiar to actively prepare for a world in which hundreds of millions are dead and you are surviving in a mansion in the boonies somewhere. That must signal something, some kind of disconnect between your plight and the plight of others.

Though the people discussing that aren't usually obviously "selfish" so it does seem that the people who are directing the controls (or have a shot at them) usually are lacking some kind of empathy. The lack of it is probably useful if not necessary to get ahead because if you do stop to consider the world, it's hard not to find it very depressing.

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The point here seems to be that unselfish people are more empathetic to the plight of others. while I don't disagree I wonder if unselfishness leads people into situations where they work towards others benefit (people they perceive as being treated unfairly) at their own detriment also possibly leading to issues with depression. That's the point I presumed the article would make before I read it.

Unselfish people begin to feel sad when the plight of others echoes with their own experiences, early childhood trauma etc. Often find themselves in a vulnerable position.

Re: Unselfish People Are More Likely to Wind Up with Depression

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It can. There is also the issue of being awash in selfish dickheads that have a tendency to turn even the most straightforward attempts to help others into a dumpster fire.

It sounds like the "unselfish" person in this scenario would be dealing with the negative form of pride (self-pity).

I'm not sure that's it.

Because the unselfish person in this scenario finds themselves giving, and others wantonly taking advantage of any kindness (theirs, or others'), the empathic sort would probably feel more disheartened by witnessing mistreatment than to notice their own.

Re: Unselfish People Are More Likely to Wind Up with Depression

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The point here seems to be that unselfish people are more empathetic to the plight of others. while I don't disagree I wonder if unselfishness leads people into situations where they work towards others benefit (people they perceive as being treated unfairly) at their own detriment also possibly leading to issues with depression. That's the point I presumed the article would make before I read it.

A close relative of mine, was a person with very good intentions, but terrible implementation. Always helping others even to the detriment of herself. This in turn resulted in her constantly asking all her family money so she could give it to others.

Her help consisted in giving people constantly money, yet this only made them dependent of her and made her feel good.

Teach a man to fish, don't give him the fish.

Sadly this person passed away, we miss her a lot. she had really good intentions, but she wasn't really helping others.

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