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Things You Cannot Say on China’s Internet

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The thing with obedience (which is disgustingly praised by quite some HN commenters, maybe even not just astroturfers) is that it leaves zero territory to live your actual life.

Which then will create people living completely double lives, the obedient shell one and the other one.

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Every time an article that is politically critical of one of US's rivals is posted on HN, there is a lot of incoming comments about how US is just as bad. Which is perfectly reasonable and commendable - most HN readers live in US, and a good citizen is more concerned with problems in his own country than elsewhere. But it makes me wonder, what kind of justifications will this article get.

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I don't understand.

== Stereotyping alert ==

At least in Malaysia and Singapore, even though there are a lot of Chinese (but not China national), "China girls" (from China) carries negative connotation. The reason is, many of them work in brothels, dodgy massage parlors, etc (you get the idea), and they're also known to "steal people's husbands" and being "gold diggers".

In China itself, it's "common" for rich people to have mistresses, and prostitution seems to be "common" (I have few friends who regularly visit China for this purpose).

Is it _because_ of that the China govt puts censorship, or _despite_ of that, or totally unrelated?

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post #3

Every time an article that is politically critical of one of US's rivals is posted on HN, there is a lot of incoming comments about how US is just as bad. Which is perfectly reasonable and commendable - most HN readers live in US, and a good citizen is more concerned with problems in his own country than elsewhere. But it makes me wonder, what kind of justifications will this article get.

> a good citizen is more concerned with problems in his own country than elsewhere.

In practical terms it's hard to be personally concerned equally as much about what happens in every country on earth, but as a matter of principle I think what happens to people is just as important regardless of where they are. And in our globalised world, what happens in one country, especially a major country, can have implications for many other countries.

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I don't understand. == Stereotyping alert == At least in Malaysia and Singapore, even though there are a lot of Chinese (but not China national), "China girls" (from China) carries negative connotation. The reason is, many of them work in brothels, dodgy massage parlors, etc (you get the idea), and they're also known to "steal people's husbands" and being "gold diggers". In China itself, it's "common" for rich people…

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Re: Things You Cannot Say on China’s Internet

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I don't understand. == Stereotyping alert == At least in Malaysia and Singapore, even though there are a lot of Chinese (but not China national), "China girls" (from China) carries negative connotation. The reason is, many of them work in brothels, dodgy massage parlors, etc (you get the idea), and they're also known to "steal people's husbands" and being "gold diggers". In China itself, it's "common" for rich people…

Here in China, we are not to understand, we just accept, obey, and keep silent.

It's not because China girls (at least most of them) want to work in those places, sometimes there simply seems to be no other means. Too sad to continue, sorry.

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Why is Nytimes so concerned about China while failing completely to put the spotlight on the burgeoning surveillance culture at home?

Who is going to talk about draconian surveillance, secret courts, secret orders, gag orders and government officials empowered to violate your dignity and privacy by searching your phone and personal effects. Why is Snowden still in Russia? Are we to pretend all this is not happening?

All this is left to the EFF. This is a kind of denial and posturing - oh look how bad they are while looking the other way at the growing authoritarianism at home.

Not even talking about the current censorship of alternative voices by Google, Facebook and others in support of mainstream media like the nyt with completely opaque and non transparent standards and lending credence to shadowy groups like propornot.

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