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China Makes Chat Group Administrators Criminally Liable for Unlawful Messages

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Jesus that's so repressive. And I'm sure the laws are pretty subjective as well or at least not something the average chat admin is fully up to speed with. Essentially the outcome of this will be to kill chats or send it underground to tor or something.

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Jesus that's so repressive. And I'm sure the laws are pretty subjective as well or at least not something the average chat admin is fully up to speed with. Essentially the outcome of this will be to kill chats or send it underground to tor or something.

In Spain, you as a website admin can be found liable for unlawful messages left by your users too. So it's not like this is unexpectedly repressive for me.

A verdict that shows so: http://www.asesoriayempresas.es/jurisprudencia/JURIDICO/1959...

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Jesus that's so repressive. And I'm sure the laws are pretty subjective as well or at least not something the average chat admin is fully up to speed with. Essentially the outcome of this will be to kill chats or send it underground to tor or something.

In Spain, you as a website admin can be found liable for unlawful messages left by your users too. So it's not like this is unexpectedly repressive for me. A verdict that shows so: http://www.asesoriayempresas.es/jurisprudencia/JURIDICO/1959...

Also true for Finland.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Spain, you as a website admin can be found liable for unlawful messages left by your users too. So it's not like this is unexpectedly repressive for me. A verdict that shows so: http://www.asesoriayempresas.es/jurisprudencia/JURIDICO/1959...

Also true for Finland.

Also true for Germany.

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A man from Jieshou county of Anhui province was frustrated by traffic police, who had established a late night checkpoint for drunk driving. In a chat room that he created, he wrote: “Are they nuts? Checking in the rain? [They are] a bunch of assholes who just want money.” As the insulting comments created negative social impact within his circle, the man was detained for five days for picking a quarrel.

At this point, it would seem the cost of running a chat room would be a bit too high if that's the punishment for "negative social impact" for the writer. I would expect the owner to be just as on the hook.

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Jesus that's so repressive. And I'm sure the laws are pretty subjective as well or at least not something the average chat admin is fully up to speed with. Essentially the outcome of this will be to kill chats or send it underground to tor or something.

Well, then, owners, admins and mods just need to be anonymous and untraceable. Users too, of course. So yeah, Tor or something stronger :)

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The regulations also demand that all chat room users in mainland China verify their real identity...

Effective 8 October, the following types of content will be prohibited in chat groups on China-based messaging platforms:

1. Sensitive political content 2. Rumors 3...

Holy shit. What is this going to do to the Chinese tech scene? The liability being created here is crazy to consider.

Lets all hope these practices aren't looked at as successful by other governments, I'd hate to see other countries following suit.

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