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What do you feel about Software Process like CMM/CMMi ?
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#2nausea and a vague sense of dread...
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#3yeap, I agree...I cannot find a single case where these would be necessary. probably others use it though
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#4yeap, I agree...I cannot find a single case where these would be necessary. probably others use it though
not in most startups... I don't see anyone here getting into defence contracting any time soon.
Granted, there are some common sense aspects that are slam dunks (c'mon, version control, why wouldn't you use it) but a lot of it still favours serious software where all the engineers wear dark suits and ties and do big design up front.
Most startups would run out of time and money just getting to level 2 CMMi compliance before they even started to really cut any code.
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#5The reson I would start a company is to get away from this stuff. It makes me sick.
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#6I deal with CMM on a daily basis (gov. contracting). It is a huge waste of time, money, and resources. If people spent less time writing documents and more time writing software, the world would be a better place.
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#7There was an interesting article on NASA's use of CMMI at FastCompany: http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff.html
As for me, I don't like it. I abide by it at work and it's generally a huge bottleneck for all projects. Many of the ideas the SEI proposes are good practice, and I have a feeling a lot of developers already follow them without knowing that they're part of any "process".
A bad implementation of CMMI at an organization only makes things worse. For example, the latest version of CMMI encourages us to engage in rapid feedback cycles with customers, which is great. But the system we're supposed to track when and how we did that is clunky and consumes time, to the point that you don't want to go talk to customers for fear of having to do more writing and documenation.
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#8I've also seen a bad implementation of CMM. indeed, if not implemented wisely, it adds a lot of unneeded redundancy.
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#9The goals they have are good ones. If you're stuck with more than 10 programmers of varying levels of ability, and you're taking marching orders from a client who has no idea what the tradeoffs are, they're arguably the best way to get things done.
When you're a group of fewer than 5 programmers and you're all smarter than the average bear, they're useless.
In essence, they're a ritualization of the communication and testing process that has to happen to make software good and reliable. Without some communication and testing, the software will suck; at a certain organizational size, or with programmers of lower ability levels, you can't rely on the programmers to do it themselves.
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#10It sucks all the fun out of writing software. An awful methodology. I left the company that used it after only 3 months (would have been sooner if I found another job sooner).