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Google engineer wrote his memo after he went to a shaming diversity program

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Re: Google engineer wrote his memo after he went to a shaming diversity program

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If you claim to be impartial and scientific, but go on to be publicly interviewed by an alt-right media member, you lose your credibility.

If you claim to be impartial and scientific, but use terms like "virtue signaling", which are conservative straw men of liberals ("The only reason anyone would stand up for others is to prove that they are virtuous"), you lose your credibility.

Re: Google engineer wrote his memo after he went to a shaming diversity program

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If you claim to be impartial and scientific, but go on to be publicly interviewed by an alt-right media member, you lose your credibility. If you claim to be impartial and scientific, but use terms like "virtue signaling", which are conservative straw men of liberals ("The only reason anyone would stand up for others is to prove that they are virtuous"), you lose your credibility.

Virtue signaling is a real phenomena.

It doesn't matter how conservatives might sometimes use the term, it is a useful term for anyone - of any political persuasion - who wishes to refer to this behavior.

Trying to invalidate words, and the concepts they refer to - by claiming their mere use destroys your credibility - strikes me as a subtle and nefarious form of thought control.

Re: Google engineer wrote his memo after he went to a shaming diversity program

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If you claim to be impartial and scientific, but go on to be publicly interviewed by an alt-right media member, you lose your credibility. If you claim to be impartial and scientific, but use terms like "virtue signaling", which are conservative straw men of liberals ("The only reason anyone would stand up for others is to prove that they are virtuous"), you lose your credibility.

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Re: Google engineer wrote his memo after he went to a shaming diversity program

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If you claim to be impartial and scientific, but go on to be publicly interviewed by an alt-right media member, you lose your credibility. If you claim to be impartial and scientific, but use terms like "virtue signaling", which are conservative straw men of liberals ("The only reason anyone would stand up for others is to prove that they are virtuous"), you lose your credibility.

It seems to me that Jordan Peterson [0] is an interesting, thoughtful person who is very transparent about his personal journal to find meaning and understand... well, existence for lack of a better word.

I highly recommend his podcasts.

Dismissing him[1] as "alt-right" media does a terrible disservice to the spirit of learning and open inquiry.

As for that other guy that interviewed him - meh. But if everyone in the mainstream media were lying about me, I might accept help from such as him.

[0] Edit: While not mentioned in this article, James Damore's second interview this week was with Jordan Peterson. It is of higher quality.

[1] I see now that you were not, my apologies.

Re: Google engineer wrote his memo after he went to a shaming diversity program

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This is one angle I haven't heard. After diversity training he wrote the memo. I have never been through diversity training but could this help his court case?

I would imagine that the nature of this training would vary greatly between different companies.

And given the extremity of the reactions by certain left leaning people at Google this past week - I can imagine that the diversity training at Google is particularly irrational and cult-like.

Re: Google engineer wrote his memo after he went to a shaming diversity program

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I highly, highly recommend watching Damore's interview with Jordan Peterson. I am starting to think that Damore might be on the right side of all of this. https://youtu.be/SEDuVF7kiPU

Yes, that was a good interview. Much better than the interview with the other guy, mentioned in this article.

Re: Google engineer wrote his memo after he went to a shaming diversity program

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I highly, highly recommend watching Damore's interview with Jordan Peterson. I am starting to think that Damore might be on the right side of all of this. https://youtu.be/SEDuVF7kiPU

Here is a transcript, for anyone interested:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1exNF3d5wjzr33aLEQkbdKx5V...

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