Drug Submarine Seized In Ecuador Is Huge Leap For Smugglers
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Re: Drug Submarine Seized In Ecuador Is Huge Leap For Smugglers
#2I did a little digging around a little more than a year ago when I had read about the narcotics submersibles.
With this step up to full submarines I'm thinking that the people using these can now have them built in almost any location next to the sea around the world.
Somalia would seem to be a good place to build, no government to sieze them.
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#3That's the problem with wars - they lead to arms races.... The sooner western governments start looking into the development of safer recreational drugs (ie no worse than alcohol, and preferably with low dependence), the sooner we can get rid of drug lords, drug wars, and all the killing and suffering that goes with it. Stupid stupid stupid....
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#4I did a little digging around a little more than a year ago when I had read about the narcotics submersibles. With this step up to full submarines I'm thinking that the people using these can now have them built in almost any location next to the sea around the world. Somalia would seem to be a good place to build, no government to sieze them.
Well, yes and no - you need a decent chink of infrastructure to build a submarine - you know, not having your engineering staff murdered, important supplies stolen, that sort of thing. It's hard to supply the sort of protection needed to guarantees these basic conditions when you're a long way from your support base. Of course, if a Somali warlord wanted to get in on the submarine-building business, he'd probably be able to make a decent amount of money. But I bet you could get the same service from a shady shipyard in Shanghai or somewhere similar for a lower price...
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#5I wonder how much they would pay for some of the old Soviet diesel subs - they are properly to expensive to scuttle after one trip, but they can properly carry a lot more than these homemade ones, and they would be better at evading radar too.
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#6I did a little digging around a little more than a year ago when I had read about the narcotics submersibles. With this step up to full submarines I'm thinking that the people using these can now have them built in almost any location next to the sea around the world. Somalia would seem to be a good place to build, no government to sieze them.
Well, yes and no - you need a decent chink of infrastructure to build a submarine - you know, not having your engineering staff murdered, important supplies stolen, that sort of thing. It's hard to supply the sort of protection needed to guarantees these basic conditions when you're a long way from your support base. Of course, if a Somali warlord wanted to get in on the submarine-building business, he'd probably be…
"a shady shipyard in Shanghai"
Thank you for giving me the title of my next novel. ;)
Re: Drug Submarine Seized In Ecuador Is Huge Leap For Smugglers
#7That's the problem with wars - they lead to arms races.... The sooner western governments start looking into the development of safer recreational drugs (ie no worse than alcohol, and preferably with low dependence), the sooner we can get rid of drug lords, drug wars, and all the killing and suffering that goes with it. Stupid stupid stupid....
"O brave new world that has such people in it. Let's start at once."
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#8That's the problem with wars - they lead to arms races.... The sooner western governments start looking into the development of safer recreational drugs (ie no worse than alcohol, and preferably with low dependence), the sooner we can get rid of drug lords, drug wars, and all the killing and suffering that goes with it. Stupid stupid stupid....
The problem is that you don't want more recreational drugs in your country. Alcohol is already a problem, so is tobacco, do we really want to add more?
It's naive to believe that legalizing drugs will damage drug lords. They will continue to sell different kind of drugs, because whatever you legalize, there's going to be a market for different kind of substances; and they will simply flood the market with cheaper, not health-approved, substances.
An example of it is illegal cigarettes smuggling caused by the rise of cigarettes prices.
There is an example of a country devastated by "soft" drugs, it's Djibouti (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djibouti) with Khat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khat).
You really don't want your whole workforce getting just enough to buy Khat and spend the day stoned or do you?
No silver bullet.
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#9That's the problem with wars - they lead to arms races.... The sooner western governments start looking into the development of safer recreational drugs (ie no worse than alcohol, and preferably with low dependence), the sooner we can get rid of drug lords, drug wars, and all the killing and suffering that goes with it. Stupid stupid stupid....
legalization itself would make drugs safer. half the problem with illegal drug safety is the inconsistency in potency.
But when products are legal, brands develop that have an interest in delivering quality. And they have bank accounts. That guy in the alley really doesn't.
If I remember correctly, I think there's even a chemical you can add to cocaine that prevents overdose. No real incentive to do that when its an illegal product.
Re: Drug Submarine Seized In Ecuador Is Huge Leap For Smugglers
#10That's the problem with wars - they lead to arms races.... The sooner western governments start looking into the development of safer recreational drugs (ie no worse than alcohol, and preferably with low dependence), the sooner we can get rid of drug lords, drug wars, and all the killing and suffering that goes with it. Stupid stupid stupid....
The problem is that you don't want more recreational drugs in your country. Alcohol is already a problem, so is tobacco, do we really want to add more? It's naive to believe that legalizing drugs will damage drug lords. They will continue to sell different kind of drugs, because whatever you legalize, there's going to be a market for different kind of substances; and they will simply flood the market with cheaper, no…
Why would the entire workplace suddenly decide to start using drugs? Its not like employers can't detect stoned employees.