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Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to Tesla's Board

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Re: Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to Tesla's Board

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It seems like with any company that has a huge divide in terms of knowledge/skill/salaried jobs, i.e. Tesla engineers vs. factory workers or Lyft developers vs. drivers, there will always be a bias towards the smaller elite core.

I wonder how this will play out in the future as class divides between high skilled versus low skilled workers become more and more ever present within the oncoming wave of mass automation.

Re: Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to Tesla's Board

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This news is unsavory for many of us as it breaks the bubble. In no world is it realistic that each employee report safety issues directly to the CEO. That comment when heard by internal staff actually says the opposite, report it to me and you risk your job.

[edit: I love Musk and all his visionary work. Consider it this way, think of Musks usual week and how much he's up to, now imagine on a day he's announcing a new Space X breakthrough that you are working on site and there is an issue with the batch of door handles that have just arrived to you from the warehouse. What should you do? Are you just going to stop work on the assembly and drop Musk a line?)]

[edit 2: Seems Musk didn't actually say he wanted to be contacted directly by employees facing safety issues, see below]

Re: Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to Tesla's Board

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Itn seems communists are more dangerous than AI.

I don't understand why people make this sort of comment. You don't need to be a chess player to know what's coming next.

Is the desire to say something of your own that overwhelming?

I will thoroughly enjoy seeing your comment downvoted to oblivion, in any case.

Re: Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to Tesla's Board

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The committee also calls on Tesla to release clear policies on how Fremont factory workers can get promoted, adding that "there are no guidelines for what is expected of us, or what defines success."

Uh, what? Do they expect a checklist with items like "be there for 9 hours a day" and so on? Frankly, people who need such a list are not the ones who deserve a promotion - those who do deserve it just work away at the problems and add value to whatever they put their hands on.

Re: Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to Tesla's Board

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post #3

This news is unsavory for many of us as it breaks the bubble. In no world is it realistic that each employee report safety issues directly to the CEO. That comment when heard by internal staff actually says the opposite, report it to me and you risk your job. [edit: I love Musk and all his visionary work. Consider it this way, think of Musks usual week and how much he's up to, now imagine on a day he's announcing a n…

You might want to read the linked article, because that's not what it says: http://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-factory-injur...

"Musk then said he wants direct reports about every injury, without exception, going forward. He also plans to spend time on the assembly line."

Re: Tesla factory workers pushing for a union send demands to Tesla's Board

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This is important, we need to keep watching this closely because it might deter future big companies to manufacture in the USA. Think about Apple. This is one more thing to worry about on top of higher salaries than China.

Germany's manufacturing companies have massive union presence in everything they do and they're some of the most successful in the planet.

Let's stop with this ridiculous demonization of unions. American corporations have chosen a confrontational model with unions and staff. It doesn't have to be this way. There are better models around if the owners of capital are willing to cooperate with workers.

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