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Re: The long-term cost of sexual harassment

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On one hand that sounds like pretty typically shitty behavior from someone who never imagines that there might be lasting consequences for anyone as a result. On the other hand that's a pretty low bar for a year of PTSD.

Pretty sure you've never been groped against your will.

Re: The long-term cost of sexual harassment

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On one hand that sounds like pretty typically shitty behavior from someone who never imagines that there might be lasting consequences for anyone as a result. On the other hand that's a pretty low bar for a year of PTSD.

I remember seeing some show about Microsoft and some other company. The other company felt threatened by the encounter, that Microsoft was implying or stating that they would ruin the company. Representatives from Microsoft remembered the meeting very differently. The show dramatized the different perceptions of the meeting based on the different descriptions given.

Even though Microsoft swore they were not being threatening, they did, in fact, put the other company out of business.

If you are dealing with an 800 pound gorilla, the feelings associated with being so much as looked at wrong can be quite strong. With someone in a powerful position treating someone in a vulnerable position so aggressively, her description is not unreasonable.

Also, she said "PTSD-like."

Re: The long-term cost of sexual harassment

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On one hand that sounds like pretty typically shitty behavior from someone who never imagines that there might be lasting consequences for anyone as a result. On the other hand that's a pretty low bar for a year of PTSD.

Pretty sure you've never been groped against your will.

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Re: The long-term cost of sexual harassment

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On one hand that sounds like pretty typically shitty behavior from someone who never imagines that there might be lasting consequences for anyone as a result. On the other hand that's a pretty low bar for a year of PTSD.

Yeah, people don't seem to know the difference between being upset about something and PTSD. That kind of exaggeration hurt what was otherwise a good article.

Re: The long-term cost of sexual harassment

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On one hand that sounds like pretty typically shitty behavior from someone who never imagines that there might be lasting consequences for anyone as a result. On the other hand that's a pretty low bar for a year of PTSD.

Pretty sure you've never been groped against your will.

That's not a safe assumption to make.

Re: The long-term cost of sexual harassment

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On one hand that sounds like pretty typically shitty behavior from someone who never imagines that there might be lasting consequences for anyone as a result. On the other hand that's a pretty low bar for a year of PTSD.

Pretty sure you've never been groped against your will.

Seriously, please don't go tell random people you don't know "pretty sure you've never X", especially if X is related to experiencing distress and/or a traumatic experience.

You have no idea whether they have. At best it doesn't add to the conversation, and at worse you're wrong and making everyone feel awful, yourself included.

Re: The long-term cost of sexual harassment

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On one hand that sounds like pretty typically shitty behavior from someone who never imagines that there might be lasting consequences for anyone as a result. On the other hand that's a pretty low bar for a year of PTSD.

I remember seeing some show about Microsoft and some other company. The other company felt threatened by the encounter, that Microsoft was implying or stating that they would ruin the company. Representatives from Microsoft remembered the meeting very differently. The show dramatized the different perceptions of the meeting based on the different descriptions given. Even though Microsoft swore they were not being thr…

What is "PTSD-like" if not PTSD? Flashbacks? Panic attacks? Vivid and repeated dreams? Depression? Loss of function?

At what point is it not so much "like" PTSD, which is not infrequently ruinous or even fatal to the sufferer, and more like all of the other forms of misery or trauma that don't have a diagnosis?

I object in the same way to people who feel sad claiming that they're "Depressed" and that's not harmless either. Look at Japan's relationship with mental illness (especially clinical depression) and the weird arc its following, and you'll see what I mean.

Re: The long-term cost of sexual harassment

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I remember seeing some show about Microsoft and some other company. The other company felt threatened by the encounter, that Microsoft was implying or stating that they would ruin the company. Representatives from Microsoft remembered the meeting very differently. The show dramatized the different perceptions of the meeting based on the different descriptions given. Even though Microsoft swore they were not being thr…

What is "PTSD-like" if not PTSD? Flashbacks? Panic attacks? Vivid and repeated dreams? Depression? Loss of function? At what point is it not so much "like" PTSD, which is not infrequently ruinous or even fatal to the sufferer, and more like all of the other forms of misery or trauma that don't have a diagnosis? I object in the same way to people who feel sad claiming that they're "Depressed" and that's not harmless e…

For the record, this is the exact statement in the article:

For a year after Pollock groped me, I experienced what I now realize were PTSD-like symptoms. I had not anticipated them and was completely unprepared to have intrusive thoughts, flashbacks, and anxiety attacks in situations or around people that, for one reason or another, triggered memories of the incident, which took place on October 7, 2015.

You are being incredibly dismissive of the piece and part of your justification is the term PTSD. You feel it is over the top. When the inaccuracy of your own statement is corrected, you double down.

This does not look like a good faith argument. It looks like an excuse to be dismissive.

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