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Re: Fuse

#2

Post by xb »

there was a team at my work evaluating Fuse, some very vocal fans, but they ended up going with React Native

has anybody actually used Fuse for a real product? we could not find anyone to talk with about it and that was a deal breaker

Re: Fuse

#3

Post by Rjevski »

Looks like Electron on steroids. The landing page is nice but it's like putting lipstick on a pig - it's still a pig in the end.

Also, I never understood why people hate native languages so much - why do you want to replace everything with Javascript? It's shit - it's a necessary evil in the browser but when the environment gives you something better (Swift, Java, etc) why not enjoy it?

Re: Fuse

#5

Post by voltagex_ »

Rjevski wrote: post #3

Looks like Electron on steroids. The landing page is nice but it's like putting lipstick on a pig - it's still a pig in the end. Also, I never understood why people hate native languages so much - why do you want to replace everything with Javascript? It's shit - it's a necessary evil in the browser but when the environment gives you something better (Swift, Java, etc) why not enjoy it?

Seems like .NET [1]?

Plus weird build tools and binaries in source control

1: https://github.com/fusetools/fuselibs-public/blob/master/.tr...

2: https://github.com/fusetools/fuselibs-public/tree/master/Stu...

Re: Fuse

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Post by Rjevski »

voltagex_ wrote: post #5
Rjevski wrote: post #3

Looks like Electron on steroids. The landing page is nice but it's like putting lipstick on a pig - it's still a pig in the end. Also, I never understood why people hate native languages so much - why do you want to replace everything with Javascript? It's shit - it's a necessary evil in the browser but when the environment gives you something better (Swift, Java, etc) why not enjoy it?

Seems like .NET [1]? Plus weird build tools and binaries in source control 1: https://github.com/fusetools/fuselibs-public/blob/master/.tr... 2: https://github.com/fusetools/fuselibs-public/tree/master/Stu...

"iOS and Android from day one, with one shared codebase in UX Markup and JavaScript. You can also access all native features when needed by adding Objective-C, Swift or Java code directly to your project." (from their official site)

I guess their actual compiler for "UX Markup" could be written in .NET but Javascript is definitely and unfortunately invited.

Re: Fuse

#8

Post by sosodaft »

Rjevski wrote: post #3

Looks like Electron on steroids. The landing page is nice but it's like putting lipstick on a pig - it's still a pig in the end. Also, I never understood why people hate native languages so much - why do you want to replace everything with Javascript? It's shit - it's a necessary evil in the browser but when the environment gives you something better (Swift, Java, etc) why not enjoy it?

>Why do you want to replace everything with Javascript? Because a huge number of devs already know it, so you can have your web devs work on your mobile application.

That said, my company tried Fuse out around a year ago and went with Ionic instead. Partially because adapting Angular to Fuse was a lot of effort, and partially because at that time Fuse was not nearly release-ready.

Re: Fuse

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Post by flukus »

> Create better native apps for iOS and Android with a new breed of development tools.

Does no one understand what native means anymore? UI wise, native means using the platforms widget toolkit which this does not seem to do. I'm not sure if it's even possible on android unless they are calling into the java stack for rendering the UI. Notice how in the MacOS screenshots they give a giant middle finger to the current OS theme? Doesn't look like it's using cocoa/carbon (whatever the current mac toolkit is) underneath.

I'm not sure if I'd even consider it native code on android, which would be ART/Dalvik byte code, for better or worse. I also think transpiling from c#/javascript to to c++ would rule it out as being considered native, but that's debatable.

Never trust a project that will lie to you in the elevator pitch.

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