China may match or beat America in AI
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China may match or beat America in AI
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Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#2And given happenings like the death in captivity of Liu Xiaobo, that should scare the living hell out of you.
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#3Lots of domain experts casually mention that there's nothing defensible in a well trained model.
If that's what gets you going: Russia could also match or beat America in AI.
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#4And given happenings like the death in captivity of Liu Xiaobo, that should scare the living hell out of you.
...looks like the first prototype of 1984 will go live in China. First of all Chinese should be worried but to my constant surprise many don't.
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#5They've got a lot more people, so it's just a matter of time. That, and there aren't any real "trade secrets" when it comes to AI. It's all just computer code, and anyone with an Internet connection can teach themselves how to use Wikipedia and run TensorFlow.
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#6Chinese Government is all over the Silicon Valley these days trying to get into US AI developments, using all sorts of nefarious tricks.
A case in point. There is a conference, SYNC 2017, in Computer History Museum tomorrow (July 14th), organized by Pingwest, which itself seems like a Chinese Gov. front if you look at the team.
They have several good speakers, and some Chinese, Gov fronted, fake VC types.
Till 2 days ago, it was titled SYNC 2017 - Unbounded: Building Across Borders. Yesterday, it's title was changed to SYNC 2017 - US China AI Summit
It is pretty clear that if they had gone with the US China AI Summit in the beginning several of their speakers may not have agreed, but now it is too late for anyone to change mind.
Edited: To change from "Chinese" to "Chinese Gov." to clarify I'm referring to the Chinese Gov and not Chinese people
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#7And given happenings like the death in captivity of Liu Xiaobo, that should scare the living hell out of you.
...looks like the first prototype of 1984 will go live in China. First of all Chinese should be worried but to my constant surprise many don't.
Many simply don't know. For instance, Liu Xiaobo was banned from public speaking and it was banned to publish his writing. I won't be surprised if he was better known outside China than inside.
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#8They've got a lot more people, so it's just a matter of time. That, and there aren't any real "trade secrets" when it comes to AI. It's all just computer code, and anyone with an Internet connection can teach themselves how to use Wikipedia and run TensorFlow.
'It's all just computer code'
Are you saying no software has trade secrets?
Sure, you can go through some tutorials and learn to build a CNN, or even read more recent research papers and hit bleeding-edge ImageNet benchmarks, but nothing currently public is going to get you close to Google's SDC.
You can't pretend this is just about people either, India's at 1.3B and they're far from becoming a world leader.
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#9Lots of domain experts casually mention that there's nothing defensible in a well trained model. If that's what gets you going: Russia could also match or beat America in AI.
The article is subtitled "Its deep pool of data may let it lead in artificial intelligence" for a reason, you can't just pull a "well trained" model out of thin air, and proprietary data is absolutely defensible.
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#10They've got a lot more people, so it's just a matter of time. That, and there aren't any real "trade secrets" when it comes to AI. It's all just computer code, and anyone with an Internet connection can teach themselves how to use Wikipedia and run TensorFlow.
'It's all just computer code' Are you saying no software has trade secrets? Sure, you can go through some tutorials and learn to build a CNN, or even read more recent research papers and hit bleeding-edge ImageNet benchmarks, but nothing currently public is going to get you close to Google's SDC. You can't pretend this is just about people either, India's at 1.3B and they're far from becoming a world leader.
This really depends on what is the driver of the current rise of neural networks and other similar machine learning techniques... whats the contributions of data and method toward the new improvements in performance? If more data is main contribution I would venture to say that China can indeed beat USA.