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Great design: The airplane bathroom lock and light switch

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Re: Great design: The airplane bathroom lock and light switch

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You know what else has a great design on a plane? The turbofan engines. In fact, give me a blueprint for a 757 and I can probably find 50,000 things with better design than the bathroom lock. I have a special fondness for the RAT:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_air_turbine

and if I had to choose between the bathroom lock and this set of technologies,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_protection_system

...well, I just don't know. But no one adores the trivial like 37signals. Of course, you say, "They are focusing on user-centric design." Well...in that case, the door-light combination doesn't seem as good as a motion-detector-door-light combination, which would turn ON with motion, stay on when LOCKED, and turn off when UNLOCKED. That didn't take an engineering degree to come up with. Where's my kudos?

Re: Great design: The airplane bathroom lock and light switch

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The comments are better than the article -- as one notes, the design is terrible if you're not inclined to step into a tiny, dark room and lock a door behind you (e.g. a toddler who is afraid of the dark). I'm not a cranky toddler, but I've thought that this arrangement was a bit goofy, myself.

My feeling is that a better design would use a motion detector to activate the lights. The combination door lock/light switch design doesn't seem to do much of anything, other than make the door more complicated and expensive.

Re: Great design: The airplane bathroom lock and light switch

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post #6

The comments are better than the article -- as one notes, the design is terrible if you're not inclined to step into a tiny, dark room and lock a door behind you (e.g. a toddler who is afraid of the dark). I'm not a cranky toddler, but I've thought that this arrangement was a bit goofy, myself. My feeling is that a better design would use a motion detector to activate the lights. The combination door lock/light switc…

> a better design would use a motion detector to activate the lights

but the amount of space available for movement is too small. probably too small to detect with a motion detector ?

Re: Great design: The airplane bathroom lock and light switch

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You know what else has a great design on a plane? The turbofan engines. In fact, give me a blueprint for a 757 and I can probably find 50,000 things with better design than the bathroom lock. I have a special fondness for the RAT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_air_turbine and if I had to choose between the bathroom lock and this set of technologies, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_protection_system ...well, I jus…

i for one _really_ like the lightning conductors built such that the radars on the plane don't get fried during a lightning strike.

Re: Great design: The airplane bathroom lock and light switch

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post #6

The comments are better than the article -- as one notes, the design is terrible if you're not inclined to step into a tiny, dark room and lock a door behind you (e.g. a toddler who is afraid of the dark). I'm not a cranky toddler, but I've thought that this arrangement was a bit goofy, myself. My feeling is that a better design would use a motion detector to activate the lights. The combination door lock/light switc…

> a better design would use a motion detector to activate the lights but the amount of space available for movement is too small. probably too small to detect with a motion detector ?

Don't bother detecting motion in the space in the room--just attach an accelerometer to the door. It's not going to be touched unless someone's coming in, and they'll usually start to close it before they step inside. That is, if it is closed by default. Open by default might be harder.

Re: Great design: The airplane bathroom lock and light switch

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You know what else has a great design on a plane? The turbofan engines. In fact, give me a blueprint for a 757 and I can probably find 50,000 things with better design than the bathroom lock. I have a special fondness for the RAT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_air_turbine and if I had to choose between the bathroom lock and this set of technologies, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_protection_system ...well, I jus…

You're introducing unnecessary complexity into the system; instead of the lock, light, and wiring between the two we would have lock, light, motion detector, and wiring between all three. It may be trivial, but ensuring fewer failure points is good design, especially at 30 000 feet.
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