U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children
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#2 i've donated nets in the past, but I wonder if they ended up being used for fishing instead.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/25/world/africa/mosquito-net...
I recently made it to (South) Africa for the first time. It was an incredible trip:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVtyKWylFkt/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVtyq0flJvL/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVty4K8FjBG/
I wish they/we could eliminate the malaria problem.
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#3i've donated nets in the past, but I wonder if they ended up being used for fishing instead. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/25/world/africa/mosquito-net... I recently made it to (South) Africa for the first time. It was an incredible trip: https://www.instagram.com/p/BVtyKWylFkt/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BVtyq0flJvL/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BVty4K8FjBG/ I wish they/we could eliminate the malaria problem.
> I've donated nets in the past, but I wonder if they ended up being used for fishing instead.
If the reason for donating the nets is to save lives, then this is no bad thing, right? Those people are putting the nets to the most effective purpose they can find for them. No problem, I say.
EDIT: OK, maybe these nets are suboptimal for fishing. Fine. If the people the nets are going to are in more desperate need of fishing nets than mosquito nets, and you don't want them to use mosquito nets as fishing nets, then you should be sending fishing nets instead of mosquito nets.
There's no honour in telling a hungry fisherman that the mosquito net he is using to catch fish is harmful to the environment. He doesn't give a shit. He either fishes with the net he has, or he starves.
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#4It's good to see such progress against a major disease. With this, the Gate's programs and others maybe we can hope for the near elimination of malaria in our lifetimes.
Fortunately Republican Congress members seem likely to reject[1] Trump's proposed 11% cut to the program[2], even if it seems mostly because it was setup under Bush, not because it is effective.
[1] http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-budget-foreign-aid-idU...
[2] http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/05/25/52987343...
Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children
#5i've donated nets in the past, but I wonder if they ended up being used for fishing instead. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/25/world/africa/mosquito-net... I recently made it to (South) Africa for the first time. It was an incredible trip: https://www.instagram.com/p/BVtyKWylFkt/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BVtyq0flJvL/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BVty4K8FjBG/ I wish they/we could eliminate the malaria problem.
> I've donated nets in the past, but I wonder if they ended up being used for fishing instead. If the reason for donating the nets is to save lives, then this is no bad thing, right? Those people are putting the nets to the most effective purpose they can find for them. No problem, I say. EDIT: OK, maybe these nets are suboptimal for fishing. Fine. If the people the nets are going to are in more desperate need of fis…
I'll save you the reading:
- Mosquito nets have much smaller holes than normal fishing nets, so they trap almost all living organism, which is bad.
- The nets are treated with toxic chemicals which kills the fish in the ponds/rivers, and might be dangerous for humans who drink the water.
I would say it's bad.
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#6i've donated nets in the past, but I wonder if they ended up being used for fishing instead. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/25/world/africa/mosquito-net... I recently made it to (South) Africa for the first time. It was an incredible trip: https://www.instagram.com/p/BVtyKWylFkt/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BVtyq0flJvL/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BVty4K8FjBG/ I wish they/we could eliminate the malaria problem.
> I've donated nets in the past, but I wonder if they ended up being used for fishing instead. If the reason for donating the nets is to save lives, then this is no bad thing, right? Those people are putting the nets to the most effective purpose they can find for them. No problem, I say. EDIT: OK, maybe these nets are suboptimal for fishing. Fine. If the people the nets are going to are in more desperate need of fis…
According to the article, the main problem is an unclear environmental impact. Those nets are treated with insecticides, which are washed into the water when used for fishing. They also have much smaller holes than actual fishing nets, which leads to potential overfishing (because fish can be caught before adulthood).
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I've donated nets in the past, but I wonder if they ended up being used for fishing instead. If the reason for donating the nets is to save lives, then this is no bad thing, right? Those people are putting the nets to the most effective purpose they can find for them. No problem, I say. EDIT: OK, maybe these nets are suboptimal for fishing. Fine. If the people the nets are going to are in more desperate need of fis…
I'll save you the reading: - Mosquito nets have much smaller holes than normal fishing nets, so they trap almost all living organism, which is bad. - The nets are treated with toxic chemicals which kills the fish in the ponds/rivers, and might be dangerous for humans who drink the water. I would say it's bad.
> The nets are treated with toxic chemicals which kills the fish in the ponds/rivers, and might be dangerous for humans who drink the water.
Are we at fault for handing them out without proper education? Do they know that these nets are laced with poison? I mean if it only hurt the people who are fishing, maybe I could live with it but it hurts everyone (kind of makes me think of second hand smoke but worse).
Something they didn't bring up in the video is that a lot of fish (the net is indiscriminate) can help keep mosquito population in check. Just another thing to pile on the list.
Maybe we need to stop sending nets treating with toxic chemicals to that part of the world. This just looks like a road paved with good intentions.
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#8It's good to see such progress against a major disease. With this, the Gate's programs and others maybe we can hope for the near elimination of malaria in our lifetimes. Fortunately Republican Congress members seem likely to reject[1] Trump's proposed 11% cut to the program[2], even if it seems mostly because it was setup under Bush, not because it is effective. [1] http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-budget-foreig…
You're suggesting they would have cut that because it was effective...?
Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children
#9It's good to see such progress against a major disease. With this, the Gate's programs and others maybe we can hope for the near elimination of malaria in our lifetimes. Fortunately Republican Congress members seem likely to reject[1] Trump's proposed 11% cut to the program[2], even if it seems mostly because it was setup under Bush, not because it is effective. [1] http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-budget-foreig…
You're suggesting they would have cut that because it was effective...?
I think the suggestion is that cuts are largely determined by the regime that instituted the program, independent of effectiveness.
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#10Now the devil's question: how are we going to feed all the people that survive because of this?
Really, don't get me wrong, it's fantastic that lives are being saved. The amount of grief being spared by this, by not losing a child for so many families, is unimaginable. I am just wondering if we are not creating an even bigger problem by solving this problem before the other.