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Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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Why a dongle?

The chffr app (video / nav data) + panda dongle (sensor data) is a simple way to let anybody participate in data collection, and for comma.ai to build enterprise value by accruing and organizing a gigantic data set that's critical to them or any third party executing the ML at core of self driving.

Now pair this with a tweet they posted in June:

"Just realized something. You are really going to be happy you have comma points. Get in early... http://getchffr.com/ #ICO"(1)

I think that's an incredibly compelling / fascinating ACTUAL use case for an ICO vs the current litany of pyramiding and outright scams we're seeing.

Take their chffr app + panda dongle and give people a financial INCENTIVE to accrue "points" by running the two data harvesting mechanisms and suddenly I am seeing comma's strategy in a new light.

(1) https://twitter.com/comma_ai/status/873014550164938752

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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TL;DR: it's a device that gathers metrics from the car sensors.

The product is aimed at hackers and car enthusiasts. You want to know your top speed, 0 - 60 etc? This might be the device for you.

Afaik there's already products out there that do the same thing. This could be at a lower price point though.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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post #5

TL;DR: it's a device that gathers metrics from the car sensors. The product is aimed at hackers and car enthusiasts. You want to know your top speed, 0 - 60 etc? This might be the device for you. Afaik there's already products out there that do the same thing. This could be at a lower price point though.

You can find similar products that work over bluetooth for under $10 on Amazon. I use an old smartphone on a mount to show all of the same information using a third-party app - no need for an $88 proprietary dongle.

There doesn't seem to be anything new about this product other than marketing and a high price tag. I'd love for that to not be the case, however. Maybe I'm missing some features of it.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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Excited about this. I've been looking for something like this for a while. Tried a couple of different types of OBD-II adapters from Ebay, but trying to get data from them over bluetooth or wifi was just a pain. Panda with a direct interface to my laptop will enable me to get all the information I've been trying to get from the OBD-II port of my car, specifically steering angles, acceleration and braking. Using them together with feeds from a couple of cameras, and some interesting applications can be hacked together.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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Hotz is quoted as saying in the article, "there are only three real competitors: Waymo, Tesla and us."

That's total bullshit. There are so many companies seriously working on autonomous vehicles, such as GM Cruise, Auroa Innovation, Drive.ai, Zoox, Nuro.ai, nuTonomy, Varden Labs, AImotive, Ford, and Nvidia

Edit, because George is on here: George, I want to like you, because I think your tech is really good (the street image segmentation from RGB images is seriously impressive- https://commacoloring.herokuapp.com/) and I think your business model of offering cheap devices and free services to crowd-source data, along with the comma points to incentivize users could give you a big competitive advantage. But the hyperbole makes it difficult to take you seriously.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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post #6
post #5

TL;DR: it's a device that gathers metrics from the car sensors. The product is aimed at hackers and car enthusiasts. You want to know your top speed, 0 - 60 etc? This might be the device for you. Afaik there's already products out there that do the same thing. This could be at a lower price point though.

You can find similar products that work over bluetooth for under $10 on Amazon. I use an old smartphone on a mount to show all of the same information using a third-party app - no need for an $88 proprietary dongle. There doesn't seem to be anything new about this product other than marketing and a high price tag. I'd love for that to not be the case, however. Maybe I'm missing some features of it.

From the README[0]:

It supports 3x CAN, 2x LIN, and 1x GMLAN. It also charges a phone. On the computer side, it has both USB and Wi-Fi.

It uses an STM32F413 for low level stuff and an ESP8266 for Wi-Fi. They are connected over high speed SPI, so the panda is actually capable of dumping the full contents of the busses over Wi-Fi, unlike every other dongle on amazon. ELM327 is weak, panda is strong.

https://github.com/commaai/panda/blob/master/README.md

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