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Tonik — WordPress starter theme with CLI, ES6, Webpack and more

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Post by patrulo » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 11:09 AM UTC

Tonik — WordPress starter theme with CLI, ES6, Webpack and more
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Re: Tonik — WordPress starter theme with CLI, ES6, Webpack and more

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Post by mandazi » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 1:00 PM UTC

Cool. I'll check this out.

One thing I really find myself having a hard time working with WordPress themes is that many of them are bloated and require so many plugins. The amount of css/js files that are required to load a page in a premium WordPress theme averages around 30+ files (at least from what I have seen working with WordPress themes).

Re: Tonik — WordPress starter theme with CLI, ES6, Webpack and more

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Post by dangerface » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 1:04 PM UTC

I keep seeing these projects to make wordpress work more like a cms and I keep thinking why not just use a cms?

Re: Tonik — WordPress starter theme with CLI, ES6, Webpack and more

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Post by tyingq » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 1:11 PM UTC

mandazi wrote: post #2

Cool. I'll check this out. One thing I really find myself having a hard time working with WordPress themes is that many of them are bloated and require so many plugins. The amount of css/js files that are required to load a page in a premium WordPress theme averages around 30+ files (at least from what I have seen working with WordPress themes).

>The amount of css/js files that are required to load a page in a premium WordPress theme averages around 30+ files

HTTP/2 alleviates most of this, but there are plugins that can concatenate and minify css/js. It is a shame though that most of the attractive themes are so bloated.

Re: Tonik — WordPress starter theme with CLI, ES6, Webpack and more

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Post by austinpray » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 1:13 PM UTC

dangerface wrote: post #3

I keep seeing these projects to make wordpress work more like a cms and I keep thinking why not just use a cms?

WordPress is a cms first and foremost.

edit: lol today I learned cms != blog

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 1:15 PM UTC

dangerface wrote: post #3

I keep seeing these projects to make wordpress work more like a cms and I keep thinking why not just use a cms?

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Re: Tonik — WordPress starter theme with CLI, ES6, Webpack and more

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Post by tyingq » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 1:15 PM UTC

austinpray wrote: post #5

dangerface wrote: post #3

I keep seeing these projects to make wordpress work more like a cms and I keep thinking why not just use a cms?

WordPress is a cms first and foremost. edit: lol today I learned cms != blog

I'd say "sort of". It does support custom field types and custom post types. But you have to either write code, or use some 3rd party plugin to manage/use them.

Re: Tonik — WordPress starter theme with CLI, ES6, Webpack and more

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Post by bybjorn » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 1:17 PM UTC

austinpray wrote: post #5

dangerface wrote: post #3

I keep seeing these projects to make wordpress work more like a cms and I keep thinking why not just use a cms?

WordPress is a cms first and foremost. edit: lol today I learned cms != blog

Why do you then still get a blog when you install it?

Re: Tonik — WordPress starter theme with CLI, ES6, Webpack and more

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Post by zaphar » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 1:18 PM UTC

austinpray wrote: post #5

dangerface wrote: post #3

I keep seeing these projects to make wordpress work more like a cms and I keep thinking why not just use a cms?

WordPress is a cms first and foremost. edit: lol today I learned cms != blog

No. WordPress is a blogging platform. A CMS is much more than that. If you need a CMS you probably want something more than WordPress.

Re: Tonik — WordPress starter theme with CLI, ES6, Webpack and more

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Post by fimdomeio » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 1:21 PM UTC

I started separating the admin from the "theme" by using the wordpress rest api (admin running in a subdomain). While this might seem overkill at first but I find that there's a lot less documentation to read and I can reuse a lot more code from other projects without any changes.