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Canadian province secretly passes law allowing arrest of those who won't show ID

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Re: Canadian province secretly passes law allowing arrest of those who won't show ID

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in europe is the same. you always need to have the id with you.

Not everywhere - Europe is not homogeneous.

There's no state-mandated ID in the UK, for example, so the police can't demand it here. In most circumstances you're not required to even disclose your name and address to a random plod.

Re: Canadian province secretly passes law allowing arrest of those who won't show ID

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That's a pretty broad title... What the law actually changes is that if you're within 5 meters of the 'fence' surrounding the G20 zone, police have the right to ask you for ID and what you're doing there. If you don't show ID or answer their questions you are subject to arrest (but, as with this guy, probably no prosecution).

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in europe is the same. you always need to have the id with you.

Not everywhere - Europe is not homogeneous. There's no state-mandated ID in the UK, for example, so the police can't demand it here. In most circumstances you're not required to even disclose your name and address to a random plod.

My rule of thumb is that any government proposing to introduce ID cards in the UK is about to lose the next election. It's happened twice (Conservatives in 1997, Labour in 2010).

Re: Canadian province secretly passes law allowing arrest of those who won't show ID

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That's a pretty broad title... What the law actually changes is that if you're within 5 meters of the 'fence' surrounding the G20 zone, police have the right to ask you for ID and what you're doing there. If you don't show ID or answer their questions you are subject to arrest (but, as with this guy, probably no prosecution).

Totally agree.

You have this guy (probably with his green bandanna over his face) while "exploring the G20 perimeter with his friend". Being passive aggressive landed him in jail but will probably have his court date dropped before July 28.

Then again this appears to only be his side of the story. You want to bet that he was being a little more than passive aggressive ;)

I don't really mind people who protest but I hate the fact that these yahoo fly into toronto just to stir shit up. Are they even hear for a cause for just to cause trouble?

EDIT: added disclaimer: I tend to assume the worst in people ;)

Re: Canadian province secretly passes law allowing arrest of those who won't show ID

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That's a pretty broad title... What the law actually changes is that if you're within 5 meters of the 'fence' surrounding the G20 zone, police have the right to ask you for ID and what you're doing there. If you don't show ID or answer their questions you are subject to arrest (but, as with this guy, probably no prosecution).

Totally agree. You have this guy (probably with his green bandanna over his face) while "exploring the G20 perimeter with his friend". Being passive aggressive landed him in jail but will probably have his court date dropped before July 28. Then again this appears to only be his side of the story. You want to bet that he was being a little more than passive aggressive ;) I don't really mind people who protest but I h…

Taking a sneering attitude towards people attempting to challenge security overreach doesn't serve the public interest. Being passive aggressive isn't against the law and if he was being more than passive aggressive (i.e. physically aggressive) the charges would likely reflect that.

Re: Canadian province secretly passes law allowing arrest of those who won't show ID

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That's a pretty broad title... What the law actually changes is that if you're within 5 meters of the 'fence' surrounding the G20 zone, police have the right to ask you for ID and what you're doing there. If you don't show ID or answer their questions you are subject to arrest (but, as with this guy, probably no prosecution).

Totally agree. You have this guy (probably with his green bandanna over his face) while "exploring the G20 perimeter with his friend". Being passive aggressive landed him in jail but will probably have his court date dropped before July 28. Then again this appears to only be his side of the story. You want to bet that he was being a little more than passive aggressive ;) I don't really mind people who protest but I h…

This comment is unbelievably bad. What are you talking about, "probably with his green bandanna over his face?" Refusing to show ID is being "passive-aggressive?" I'd call it common sense (if you don't know that you're legally obligated to.)

Either you have a lot of evidence that you're not telling us about, or you're casting aspersions onto this guy that are totally indefensible.

Re: Canadian province secretly passes law allowing arrest of those who won't show ID

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally agree. You have this guy (probably with his green bandanna over his face) while "exploring the G20 perimeter with his friend". Being passive aggressive landed him in jail but will probably have his court date dropped before July 28. Then again this appears to only be his side of the story. You want to bet that he was being a little more than passive aggressive ;) I don't really mind people who protest but I h…

This comment is unbelievably bad. What are you talking about, "probably with his green bandanna over his face?" Refusing to show ID is being "passive-aggressive?" I'd call it common sense (if you don't know that you're legally obligated to.) Either you have a lot of evidence that you're not telling us about, or you're casting aspersions onto this guy that are totally indefensible.

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