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Four steps we’re taking today to fight online terror

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Re: Four steps we’re taking today to fight online terror

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They say they are fighting "violent extremism online" but how can you be violent online? That's a physical thing. Instead, they outline four points for greater censorship of videos.

Which is Google's right to do.

Let ISIS or White Nazi rebirth club set their own video hosting services up instead of piggybacking on something they are ultimately trying to destroy.

Re: Four steps we’re taking today to fight online terror

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Personally I'm opposed to this, assuming google's goal with these steps is to protect open societies. Not because I think you should be able to post content without restrictions, but because I think it serves society better to get desensitised to this type of violent content.

In the context of 'protecting' society:

IMO it's better to protect your society by removing or blocking blatant propaganda, but I don't think that ban should be extended to violent/gruesome content. The less you see of it, the harder it will hit once it gets past the blockade. I consider it a healthy human response to be able to see such images and think "Fuck those assholes", and then move on with your day. Shielding people will have the opposite effect, since people will not be familiar with the possibility of seeing such things and it will therefore retain it's shock-value/utility for the .

No matter how much (western?)society might fool us, humans can deal with this. We've lived as savages, constantly tested by nature and the cruelty of life, for most of our existence on earth. I'm not saying that we should return to such a state, but we also shouldn't needlessly cuddle responsible adult people either.

Re: Four steps we’re taking today to fight online terror

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They say they are fighting "violent extremism online" but how can you be violent online? That's a physical thing. Instead, they outline four points for greater censorship of videos.

Censorship is a firewall for your brain: crude, obvious, flawed, often in the way, yet still better than nothing.

Which is rather a pitty, given this metaphor makes most of our cultural baggage into unwanted and unremovable bloatware that has its own set of problems.

Re: Four steps we’re taking today to fight online terror

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They say they are fighting "violent extremism online" but how can you be violent online? That's a physical thing. Instead, they outline four points for greater censorship of videos.

You cannot be violent online but you can spread lie and propaganda and some people could believe it. Governments have a long history of doing it.

Re: Four steps we’re taking today to fight online terror

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post #5

Personally I'm opposed to this, assuming google's goal with these steps is to protect open societies. Not because I think you should be able to post content without restrictions, but because I think it serves society better to get desensitised to this type of violent content. In the context of 'protecting' society: IMO it's better to protect your society by removing or blocking blatant propaganda, but I don't think t…

As I understand it, human psychology is such that repetition makes things seem true. We don't get desensitised, instead we start to believe whatever we see is the way the world is, that means .

Re: Four steps we’re taking today to fight online terror

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They say they are fighting "violent extremism online" but how can you be violent online? That's a physical thing. Instead, they outline four points for greater censorship of videos.

You cannot be violent online but you can spread lie and propaganda and some people could believe it. Governments have a long history of doing it.

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