A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
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A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
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Re: A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
#2That isn't really fair to Matt. What he's saying is, show them ranking for a query they shouldn't be, and then he'll start to be concerned.
Re: A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
#3That isn't really fair to Matt. What he's saying is, show them ranking for a query they shouldn't be, and then he'll start to be concerned.
That's been done though. Pretty much everything they rank for is from self-voting, manipulation that is contrary to the "democratic nature of the web" that Google wants to leverage. There are plenty of queries that demonstrate that, ones that Matt has indeed been shown.
Re: A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
#4That isn't really fair to Matt. What he's saying is, show them ranking for a query they shouldn't be, and then he'll start to be concerned.
That's been done though. Pretty much everything they rank for is from self-voting, manipulation that is contrary to the "democratic nature of the web" that Google wants to leverage. There are plenty of queries that demonstrate that, ones that Matt has indeed been shown.
I'm all for stopping Google Spam, and I don't doubt it is happening in this case but I'm not entirely certain that the case in point is Google Spam.
If I am only interested in Star Wars questions a secondary portal is going to be far more interesting to me. I have no problems with the concept.
Yes, the execution itself can be questioned with all of the links but can't blame a guy for trying can you?
Re: A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
#5That isn't really fair to Matt. What he's saying is, show them ranking for a query they shouldn't be, and then he'll start to be concerned.
The essential question I ask is whether Mahalo is gettingthe same treat ment as any other site. So, if you and I launch a site that uses the same "thin affiliate" sites for crosslinking and disregards the other Google rules that Mahalo disregards, will we get a pass or will we get blacklisted?
If Cutts ignore our site, then he's being consistent. However, the author of the post contends that Mahalo is getting away with stuff that is getting other sites penalized. That's a very different thing to the question of how well Mahalo ranks.
Re: A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
#6Hackaday is not a site that was created in the last year.
Re: A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
#7I'm gonna go out on a limb here: Who gives a shit?
Everyone treats Google like this super police agent who's job is to keep our minds free from digital pollution. Yet 97% of Google's income comes from their ad network, which thrives on having publishers and SERP pages to serve up their advertising customer's creatives. Ultimately, I'm sure Google is fine with this Mahalo stuff, because it means they have more ad space to publish on.
What Mahalo has going on is not much different than the major article directory sites like EZine and Associated Content. Search on one of those sites for corn on the cob and I bet you'll find a bunch of similar articles, all plastered with adsense. In fact, I have tools right now that can rewrite an article and allow me submit more corn on the cob articles in under a minute. But you never hear anyone bitch about those sites, because it's User Generated Content. Ultimately, how are they any different?
Honestly, knowing what I know about Black Hat SEO Tactics (I know a good amount), I'd rather see someone building out massive crappy content sites than spamming their backlinks everywhere. At least they aren't polluting everyone else's sites by getting XRumer blasts and Blog Comment Spamming.
Re: A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
#8Disclaimer: I used to work for mahalo.
You mentioned these sites having no unique or original content but after a few quick searches on questions on the star wars answers sites it was pretty clear that all the ugc is original. True there is not much of it, but thats because the sites are only a few months old at the most.
You've proven that the category structure across the sites is similar and that new sites often don't have much content but Google already knows not to grant page rank power to new undeveloped sites. The backlinks from these domains will only carry weight if users engage it and significant content is built...and if that happens then your entire argument goes away.
If there are actual users building niche content, I don't really see the problem here. If you don't agree with that then you're making the case against all niche forums and communities just because you don't like the guy.
Re: A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
#9That isn't really fair to Matt. What he's saying is, show them ranking for a query they shouldn't be, and then he'll start to be concerned.
The essential question I ask is whether Mahalo is gettingthe same treat ment as any other site. So, if you and I launch a site that uses the same "thin affiliate" sites for crosslinking and disregards the other Google rules that Mahalo disregards, will we get a pass or will we get blacklisted? If Cutts ignore our site, then he's being consistent. However, the author of the post contends that Mahalo is getting away wi…
It seems, from the later demonstrations in the article, that the content is at least somewhat unique on these sites. I think that alone would keep it from being penalized on G.
Re: A guide to the latest Mahalo spam techniques
#10I'm gonna go out on a limb here: Who gives a shit? Everyone treats Google like this super police agent who's job is to keep our minds free from digital pollution. Yet 97% of Google's income comes from their ad network, which thrives on having publishers and SERP pages to serve up their advertising customer's creatives. Ultimately, I'm sure Google is fine with this Mahalo stuff, because it means they have more ad spac…
Look: either they're going to control spam or they're not. But they can't reasonably own all of Internet search and navigation and be capricious about enforcing their intentionally obscure ranking rules. Google demands the benefit of the doubt from the entire Internet. They set this high standard for themselves, and they profit e n o r m o u s l y from the perception that they live up to it.