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Re: Facebook Begins Deploying IPv6

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Why is this trending when this is actually the more important news story? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1383525

Everyone knows that IPv4 is running out; we've known for years. That's non-news. (You can tell because CNN is covering it.) The story is how people are fixing the problem.

Also, your "buy gold" quip gets an insta-flag for scaremongering.

Re: Facebook Begins Deploying IPv6

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post #2

Why is this trending when this is actually the more important news story? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1383525

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ipv4+*+run+out+by|i...

Because we've been almost out of ipv4 addresses forever and nobody has an accurate prediction as to when it will really start to matter.

Re: Facebook Begins Deploying IPv6

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Why is this trending when this is actually the more important news story? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1383525

IP v4 is never going to run out. As it gets more scarce, it will get more carefully used (more NAT, smaller subnets, more services sharing IPs) and more costly, but it's not going to RUN RUN RUN THUMP in a sharp cutoff like Y2K.

Thus, it isn't an important news story at all.

And isn't gold at record high levels recently?

Re: Facebook Begins Deploying IPv6

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post #2

Why is this trending when this is actually the more important news story? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1383525

IP v4 is never going to run out. As it gets more scarce, it will get more carefully used (more NAT, smaller subnets, more services sharing IPs) and more costly, but it's not going to RUN RUN RUN THUMP in a sharp cutoff like Y2K. Thus, it isn't an important news story at all. And isn't gold at record high levels recently?

Agree -- IPv4 would never run out. I even think that scarcity of IP addresses could be a good thing. IP address can accumulate your reputation (as a non-spammer, for example). And if new IP address is not available for free -- it would make life of spammers harder.

Re: Facebook Begins Deploying IPv6

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post #2

Why is this trending when this is actually the more important news story? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1383525

IP v4 is never going to run out. As it gets more scarce, it will get more carefully used (more NAT, smaller subnets, more services sharing IPs) and more costly, but it's not going to RUN RUN RUN THUMP in a sharp cutoff like Y2K. Thus, it isn't an important news story at all. And isn't gold at record high levels recently?

If it's not called run out, what do you call it when a company goes to their RIR with a well-justified request and is told "Sorry, that's a great request -- sure -- but we don't have a block to give you."

If that's not a sharp cutoff, I don't know what is. If you're a hosting company, what do you do when your customer growth outpaces your ability to procure IP addresses?

Re: Facebook Begins Deploying IPv6

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post #3
post #2

Why is this trending when this is actually the more important news story? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1383525

Everyone knows that IPv4 is running out; we've known for years. That's non-news. (You can tell because CNN is covering it.) The story is how people are fixing the problem. Also, your "buy gold" quip gets an insta-flag for scaremongering.

Try and draw me a line between scaremongering and being realistic about forecasts?

Re: Facebook Begins Deploying IPv6

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

IP v4 is never going to run out. As it gets more scarce, it will get more carefully used (more NAT, smaller subnets, more services sharing IPs) and more costly, but it's not going to RUN RUN RUN THUMP in a sharp cutoff like Y2K. Thus, it isn't an important news story at all. And isn't gold at record high levels recently?

If it's not called run out, what do you call it when a company goes to their RIR with a well-justified request and is told "Sorry, that's a great request -- sure -- but we don't have a block to give you." If that's not a sharp cutoff, I don't know what is. If you're a hosting company, what do you do when your customer growth outpaces your ability to procure IP addresses?

Exactly.

Re: Facebook Begins Deploying IPv6

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IP v4 is never going to run out. As it gets more scarce, it will get more carefully used (more NAT, smaller subnets, more services sharing IPs) and more costly, but it's not going to RUN RUN RUN THUMP in a sharp cutoff like Y2K. Thus, it isn't an important news story at all. And isn't gold at record high levels recently?

If it's not called run out, what do you call it when a company goes to their RIR with a well-justified request and is told "Sorry, that's a great request -- sure -- but we don't have a block to give you." If that's not a sharp cutoff, I don't know what is. If you're a hosting company, what do you do when your customer growth outpaces your ability to procure IP addresses?

Technically, IPv4 runout occurs when the RIRs have nothing to give, but realistically there will be prefixes for sale on the market at that time so we won't be "out" of addresses. If you can't afford to buy addresses at the market price then you've run out, but the world hasn't.
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