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Why Germany Educates International Students for Free

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Re: Why Germany Educates International Students for Free

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Certainly laudable. How does one "stick around" after graduation - do you have to learn German?

While you can "survive" in Germany w/o German and may be able to work in an international IT company when it comes to "living" I have yet to see people sticking around longer who did not learn German.

Re: Why Germany Educates International Students for Free

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Certainly laudable. How does one "stick around" after graduation - do you have to learn German?

As a native German, I'd say it is essential in most parts of the country, except in a few urban areas such as Berlin or maybe Munich. But generally, for integration purposes (and also for better dealing with the infamous German bureaucracy), staying in Germany without learning German would become pretty painful after a while.

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Certainly laudable. How does one "stick around" after graduation - do you have to learn German?

Depends on the area of work I guess. It's not that uncommon to have English as company language in startups or IT companies in general, but even if not you'll get around with English just fine.

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Certainly laudable. How does one "stick around" after graduation - do you have to learn German?

Some large international companies, Dräger where I live, for example, have fully English departments (they employ a lot of grad students and post docs). But when those who never planned to stay forever start learning German soon after they arrive.

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Certainly laudable. How does one "stick around" after graduation - do you have to learn German?

While you can "survive" in Germany w/o German and may be able to work in an international IT company when it comes to "living" I have yet to see people sticking around longer who did not learn German.

Depends here you are. I have 20+ British / American friends in Berlin none of whom speak fluent German and get on just fine.

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Certainly laudable. How does one "stick around" after graduation - do you have to learn German?

do you have to learn German?

Why wouldn't you want to? It's a lovely country, with a huge body of literature that you'd deprive yourself of if you refuse to learn the language. And why isolate yourself from the locals? Weird attitude, that.

Re: Why Germany Educates International Students for Free

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Funny. I took care of foreign students in my German university and they get exploited the hell out.

At first they pay more than German students for the same semester, despite having worse chances to succeed (language barrier, culture barrier, fewer friends/family etc). Then they have to join preparation courses one way or another, because, you know, German isn't easy. Then they hardly get access to the public student dorms and are put 3-6 people in old, unclean apartments far away from university (partly without public transport access) and EACH of them pays as much as a German would pay for the whole apartment. Professors also have huge power over them and in some points can even enforce them indirectly to return to their home country. Old dudes (teachers, profs, organizers) dating barely legal girls in exchange for favors also is accepted practice.

Sure, the official part of everything they have to do and pay to succeed may be the same as for Germans and none of the "fees" may be labeled as such, but studying in Germany is much more expensive for foreign students than for Germans.

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