21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them

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Post by liotier » Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 10:01 PM UTC

21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them
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Re: 21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them

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Post by hdhzy » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 9:25 AM UTC

Good introduction to modern XMPP.

Is there a cross platform, desktop client that strives to implement these XEPs? Something like Conversations.im for Android.

Re: 21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them

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Post by catdog » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 1:50 PM UTC

hdhzy wrote: post #2

Good introduction to modern XMPP. Is there a cross platform, desktop client that strives to implement these XEPs? Something like Conversations.im for Android.

Gajim [1] implements a lot of modern XEPs (directly or through easy to install plugins), including OMEMO. I don't know how well it works on non Linux systems (they provide Windows binaries at least).

[1] https://gajim.org/

Re: 21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them

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Post by psquid » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 2:53 PM UTC

catdog wrote: post #3

hdhzy wrote: post #2

Good introduction to modern XMPP. Is there a cross platform, desktop client that strives to implement these XEPs? Something like Conversations.im for Android.

Gajim [1] implements a lot of modern XEPs (directly or through easy to install plugins), including OMEMO. I don't know how well it works on non Linux systems (they provide Windows binaries at least). [1] https://gajim.org/

it works. doesn't feel very native, but then neither do a lot of the big names in chat right now

Re: 21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them

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Post by inputmice » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 3:11 PM UTC

hdhzy wrote: post #2

Good introduction to modern XMPP. Is there a cross platform, desktop client that strives to implement these XEPs? Something like Conversations.im for Android.

There is dino: https://github.com/dino/dino

It's still very early in the development but it looks pretty good.

Re: 21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them

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Post by drdaeman » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 3:22 PM UTC

Sad, neither MongooseIM, nor ejabberd use proper Erlang/OTP SASL release system, so hot updates can be done with relup (http://erlang.org/doc/man/relup.html)

Smaller modules can be upgraded from Erlang shell, but it's seems to be impossible to update a server without shutting it down.

Re: 21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them

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Post by hdhzy » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 3:52 PM UTC

catdog wrote: post #3

hdhzy wrote: post #2

Good introduction to modern XMPP. Is there a cross platform, desktop client that strives to implement these XEPs? Something like Conversations.im for Android.

Gajim [1] implements a lot of modern XEPs (directly or through easy to install plugins), including OMEMO. I don't know how well it works on non Linux systems (they provide Windows binaries at least). [1] https://gajim.org/

Yes, feature-wise Gajim is one of the best. Unfortunately the UX is pretty bad :(

Re: 21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them

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Post by drdaeman » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 4:10 PM UTC

inputmice wrote: post #5

hdhzy wrote: post #2

Good introduction to modern XMPP. Is there a cross platform, desktop client that strives to implement these XEPs? Something like Conversations.im for Android.

There is dino: https://github.com/dino/dino It's still very early in the development but it looks pretty good.

I don't think it's cross-platform, though. At least, not yet. (Would be happy to be mistaken)

Re: 21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them

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Post by jordanwallwork » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 5:04 PM UTC

I realise this isn't actually relevant to the article content, but it seems weird that the TOC doesn't contain links to the relevant section. I know it's pretty short so I can scroll through it quickly, and numbered so I can even just ctrl+f it, but I don't think I should have to do either of those things.

Re: 21 XMPP use-cases and the best ways to achieve them

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Post by janci » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 6:03 PM UTC

XMPP protocol is so open, that different implementations offer so distinct features, so the lowest common denominator barely includes sending messages to each other.