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Meet Silicon Valley's Secretive Alt-Right Followers

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Re: Meet Silicon Valley's Secretive Alt-Right Followers

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> He spoke admiringly of Napoleon, whom he considers to be "kind of the Steve Jobs of France."

I think the problem with journalism about the alt-right is it's near impossible to tell who's sincere, who's joking, and who's half-joking-half-serious. I've been on 4chan for over a decade and I have trouble telling. It's even harder to tell who's actually influential in the community (tip: it's almost never the people who claim they are).

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I'm worried that the emphasis on the alt-right and their clearly racist and sexist motivations is overshadowing any deserved scrutiny towards the left.

What ever happened to the "Why I Need Feminism" campaign? I could make a dozen signs all on my own, for some serious shit my family and I have had to live through. Yet--according to the attributes that both the left and the right seem to care about the most--I am nothing more than a white, heterosexual, cis-gendered man, propped up as a poster-child for what is either wrong (to the left) or right (to the right) with the world. (But that's the thing about posters, they're two-dimensional.) I know better than to take some of my worst experiences with poor excuses for liberals to be indicative of the movement. Every job has its bad employees. But it's really easy to see how other people would see the abuse thrown at them and just wash their hands of the entire situation.

The alt-right is too easy of a target. Let's not let our glee to cut them down turn us into them.

Re: Meet Silicon Valley's Secretive Alt-Right Followers

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> and the video gaming vlogger Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg, whose "Pewdiepie" YouTube channel featuring Nazi-themed jokes has 54 million subscribers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it a single joke that got him in trouble? The article's wording here is pretty slippery, but it seems to be trying to give the (as I understand it) false impression that "Pewdiepie" was a Nazi humor site. That doesn't give me much confidence in the rest of the article.

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> and the video gaming vlogger Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg, whose "Pewdiepie" YouTube channel featuring Nazi-themed jokes has 54 million subscribers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it a single joke that got him in trouble? The article's wording here is pretty slippery, but it seems to be trying to give the (as I understand it) false impression that "Pewdiepie" was a Nazi humor site. That doesn't give me much confi…

It was a bunch of innocuous crap that the WSJ trumped up for clicks. One of the "nazi" things he did was stick his arm out in a manner vaguely reminiscent of a nazi salute, but it was clear from context that he was doing nothing of the sort. They evidently waded through dozens of hours of video to find a few images and sound bites they could attack.

Re: Meet Silicon Valley's Secretive Alt-Right Followers

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post #4

> He spoke admiringly of Napoleon, whom he considers to be "kind of the Steve Jobs of France." I think the problem with journalism about the alt-right is it's near impossible to tell who's sincere, who's joking, and who's half-joking-half-serious. I've been on 4chan for over a decade and I have trouble telling. It's even harder to tell who's actually influential in the community (tip: it's almost never the people who…

For example, people on the alt-right frequently claim that the Bogdanoffs are heavily involved in alt-right politics. Is this true? Almost certainly, but it's impossible to know for sure.

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> and the video gaming vlogger Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg, whose "Pewdiepie" YouTube channel featuring Nazi-themed jokes has 54 million subscribers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it a single joke that got him in trouble? The article's wording here is pretty slippery, but it seems to be trying to give the (as I understand it) false impression that "Pewdiepie" was a Nazi humor site. That doesn't give me much confi…

The reporting on the issue has just been absolutely terrible. If someone knew nothing about this man and only read the WSJ piece and other articles, it would be totally reasonable for them to come away from that thinking that Kjellberg is an antisemite that runs a pro Nazi YouTube channel.

The media is in a dangerously sorry state.

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